ok i've done alot of reasearch on the forums latley and i've found several ways to build a motor and come to the conclusion there isn't really a motor that can't be built, its just the amount of effort that go's into each that seems to vary

currently there are 3 ways i'd like to go...

#1 keep my stock d16y8, but build it up cams, pistons, rods etc. and add like a revhard or other brand of turbo (w/boost controler, turbo timer etc.)

#2 swap a b18 do cams, pistons, rods, etc prepare it for boost...but and run all motor (until i can afford a turbo)...but this would be alot of money for this and might take longer than i want

#3 swap in an h22 (200hp) and do bolt ons to gain minimal hp and just run an all motor car... but this in the end after axels and suspension work will prob cost as much as the b18 swap?

now before u make any kind of opinionated remark i just wanna let you kno im not going for maximum power i just want something in the 200-250HP range (somthing to run 13's-14's) so efficiancy in effort and cost is always good (but im willing to spend the money and do the work to have it done right and reliable)

 

Personally, I'd boost the D series. You already have that engine, replacement engines/parts are cheap, and you can make good power.

This has been covered a number of times already, you can use the search function to help you along with the pros and cons of each.

 

This coming from a B-series guy. Stick with the D-series motor. If 200-250hp is all you need then it's the one that can get you there the cheapest. H-series would be the fastest, buy from what I hear it's not worth it because of the understeer you get (now don't everybody jump on me bout how with this suspension mod...I'm saying what I hear I've never really driven one and what i hear does make sense to me).
Now with the H-series kicked out a gsr swap will run you around 3500 for which you could build your stock motor. Then you go out and buy a turbo.

 

but see i can get an h22 or b18 for under 2k (i think) and i kno for sure i can get the h22 for much cheaper....but my concern is just that understeer etc. and i personally cant afford to do axels (if i need them for h22 or b18?) and suspension all at once

also i want to add, that im not nesscarily looking for the cheapest, but rather a happy medium

(oh by the way i own a 00' civ coupe)

 

B18 under 2k? Your thinking b18b...then yea you might be able to. But it's nice to be using your stock motor. And that's STILL 2k you could put into building your stock motor! Me personally I chose B18C. I believe I made the right choice and everything will be exactly like planned, but i will have to wait and see when it's finally in and running. But I am building to be pushing high 400 to low 500hp and high boost.

 

yea, i def dont want a b18c, i prefer the non vtec motor because it requires less timing on the motor check out the link below, i've been reading this and other sources (one being a book on a gsr turbo motor build that was sawpped into a crx)

but y did u pick the b18c over the rest?

http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo....html

 

go the b series route.... take it from a guy whos gone through 3 different na b-series setups, and 2 turbo b-series.... theres nothingl ike the reliability and power production of a well thought out na b-series.... as far as a turbo b-series goes, if this is a true daily driver, then i would stay away from it.... trust me, i have experience with it-- but i must say, theres no sensation on this planet like hitting boost and vtec in a small *** eg!! incredible...

my buddy has a built h22 in his ek and its just too many problems.... plus the cable tranny kills it.... i hope this helps and i hope i didnt come off too preachy..... good luck

eddie...

 

see thats the only thing thats holdin me back from doin n/a (the sweet sound of the turbo) lol, but yes it will have to be a daily driver cuz thats y i bought the car...to drive it....but i just want somin thats gonna have some sum go (more in audio than motor)

 

if you really want a turbo,... go with a mild set up on a b-series like the xs turbo kit and complete it with their fuel setup that includes apex power fc and injectors... good luck....

 

well i can get a revhard kit pretty cheap (bro works at a stereo shop) : Plug: http://www.eastcoastcartoys.com/ : Plug: so i could do that on a b18 a or b

now i gotta ask wat would be the hp and psi numbers on stock internals?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 37DesignMH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea, i def dont want a b18c, i prefer the non vtec motor because it requires less timing on the motor check out the link below, i've been reading this and other sources (one being a book on a gsr turbo motor build that was sawpped into a crx)

but y did u pick the b18c over the rest?

http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo....html</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well here was my thought process.
B18c5 - too high compression for any daily driving
B18B - love the stroke but it's head won't flow as good as the vtec heads (don't wanna do ls/vtec)
B18C - compression higher than B18B, but not rediculously high plus some sleeves stronger rods, built head, nice boost controller and turbo I have a street car and at high boost an awsome drag car.

 

good points murtnabila, but i think he wants this thing to be a true daily driver.... you can make a turbo car a daily, but it is a lot of headaches.... to each his own i guess....

eddie

 

yea thanks for all the help guys, i think im gonna just go with a b18b or maybe c, then just get myself up 2 about 200 hp, then after college or sumtime during, boost the motor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by self.one &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good points murtnabila, but i think he wants this thing to be a true daily driver.... you can make a turbo car a daily, but it is a lot of headaches.... to each his own i guess....

eddie</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know I was just responding to why I chose the B18C cause he asked. I'm working to have a completely different goal.