I'm thinking of supercharging my 2001 GSR. I'm looking at Vortech and JRSC, and don't know which one to get?

I know that I want 250HP and they both should deliver that, while adding lower end torque.

Anyone have any advice, comments? Please help me out!

Thanks!

 

the jrsc and the vortech come no where near delivering 250 whp. try 200whp

 

The Vortech website "claims" 243hp at the crank w/ an all stock setup.
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...01integra.html

 

if u want 250hp, i mean, 250whp, turbo at 7-8psi should do it..that's at least what i've been researching..with some tuning of course..

 

The key terms being "At the crank" and "Claims"

Dustin

 

ha ha good one Dustin (you know its true) but does the guy buying it??

 

claming 243 is different than making 243. and 243 at the crank is not 243 at the wheels.


i could claim i make 800 horsepower....who would ever know until they drove my car.

 

250 hp@wheels @ 7-8psi boost ??? u sure ?? thats about 186.6kw@wheels rite ??
seems a bit too high for me with only 7-8psi

 

250whp at 7-8psi...yeah it's been done a lot.

 

damnnnn , ill be happy if i can get those figures
we'll see how much power my car makin on the 1 Dec , gonna take my baby to the dyno

 

Correct me if im wrong..but i dont think Vortech has a bolt on kit out yet for a 01 GSR...only ones ive seen where for 99 and up Si's

 

The non-aftercooled GSR unit is out.

 

vortech wont deliver low end power.. Jackson Racing will probably give u just over 200whp.. only way u r gonna get to 250whp is by going turbo..

 

Is Turbo a "safe" way to go vs Supercharging? I'm running higher compression than an LS and don't want to Chernobyl my engine. Nor do I want to have to rebuild my engine at 50,000 miles. (Also, I won't have a warranty to back me up if the engine fails. The car has barely 6000 miles on it!)

I dunno. I don't mind paying for power, but I don't want to kill my new car's powerplant either.

Thoughts, suggestions? No flames please.

 

JRSC basic bolt on on a BONE STOCK GSR wil give you around 205whp tops - TUNED (key word).

You will have higher output from the new Vortech charger hands down, but will suffer in the TQ on the low end.

however, keep in mind that the Vortech unit is upgradable to incorporate an aftercooler, expect MASSIVE gains with one. Similar number to the Si(R) kit. expect 250-275whp depending on the pulley with the aftercooler on a stock motor.

Here's some pricing: http://www.c-speedracing.com/onlinestore/vortech.html


HTH.

 

FYI to stick up for Jackson Racing .. my friend made 230whp tuned with a JRSC.. Ran a best of 13.7 @103mph.. not too shabby but now that its been on the car for a year its running like complete *******.. smokes and burns oil, was knocking the otherday.. I raced him with my LS turbo, boost at .2bar(boost leak) stock clutch and he only beat me by a car length.. i guess im not really sticking up for JRSC's afterall..


as for turbo being "safe" its all up to the driver and the install.. but its the only way to make serious power..

 

Thats about right. IMO the jackson kit is pretty good, if you get it for $1800. IMO it is comparable to the basic greddy kit for the SOHC engines. Anybody paying 2500+ for it is getting ripped.

 

There is no effective way to cool the intake charge. (JRSC)

**** that thing, like someone said...if you can get it for like 200 bux, then get it.

Suprdave

 

Here we go again....Ever heard of No2? Very effective way of cooling the blower. Why do people flame the JR...oh wait a minute...because of the band wagon. Dont be hating if you have never had first hand experience. VaporTrail on here, built and tuned a 92 dx hatch with a stock GSR motor, JR @ 12psi and 25 shot...net result = 11.2 on slicks. VERY effective cooling method.....Haters

My daily driven gsr ef hatch with the JR @ 12psi...made 275whp. Drove it everyday for abour 12,000 miles. Even had a pizza delivery job for about the first 2000 miles of the blowers life....12-13psi WOT. It ran a best of 12.8 on street tires...spinning most the way down the track. A stock GSR motor will handle 10 psi all day long....EASILY handle the boost. 205 max @ 6psi is prolly correct


[Modified by Blown90hatcH, 10:32 AM 11/24/2001]

 

I believe that he meant at the stock boost levels.

 

Yeah I know, I was just throwing that out there for people that hate on the JR. The stock JR @ around 6psi is correct around 205 max. But that motor can easily handle 10psi.

 

runnin 12psi, huh? The blower itself is said to only be able to handle 10psi of boost. EDYN can modify it to handle more, but it is recommended not to go beyond the 10psi mark.

anyways, JRSC will get you 200hp on 6psi on a GSR. You will easily run low 14's/high 13's on street tires. On slicks you will hit the mid to low 13's and with some weight reduction, maybe even better. This is all with stock pulley and its really one of the safest forms of FI out there.(meaning little tuning needed to get going and running safely) I fully recommend it... unless you care for all out speed. Its fast, but a lot harder to get REALLY fast.

Seriously if you even want to consider vortech... DONT! They designed it for the civic and integra, why? Because there is a market for it and they needed a product out there to make some of that money! Power doesnt start until about 4500rpm! AND you lose power from it cuz it takes power to run a blower! GO TURBO if the vortech sounds good to you.

However, Vortech vs. JR... both with same cars with their own blowers, same times by both, Vortech claims 100hp more than JR, Vortech costs more, and driving on the street sux with Vortech cuz there is no low end torque, driving with JR on the street is a dream cuz of TONS of torque where it counts... down low.