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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Default what brake rotor with Hawk HPS pads?

i have never used this pad before and i want to use the brembo blank rotors. would they be fine with this type of pad, or will the pad be too agressive? because when i had ebc green stuff, they warped that same rotor real fast...

any info is helpful...
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Default Re: what brake rotor with Hawk HPS pads? (crxgator)

The EBC pads were your problem, not the rotors.

Brembo blanks (or any standard blank rotor) would work well with any decent pad.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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Default Re: what brake rotor with Hawk HPS pads? (JeffS)

what would be a better blank rotor to get other than the name brand brembo, since honda is about the price of two brembos for their one...raybestos?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Default Re: what brake rotor with Hawk HPS pads? (crxgator)

A plain old blank rotor will be fine. The Aimco brand from AutoZone is cheap and works well (just avoid the ValuCraft brand). You should look into the actual cause of the "warping", because Brembo's will "warp" too...

Although I do believe it is possible to actually warp the metal, in my experience, the cause of rotor "warping" has always been that some pads are just prone to leaving deposits. I've always had rotors (Brembo or not) eventually act warped when using them with cheap AutoZone pads, especially after overheating them (which isn't hard at all to do). When I looked at the rotor's surface, I could see a bunch of tiny grooves that go around the rotor. It's my theory that pad material is getting unevenly lodged in those little grooves, which throws it off balance and alters the rotor's coefficient of friction in those areas.

However, the rotors are still good and can be un-warped... you can either get them turned (has to be enough to remove the little grooves), or you can just use some aggressive pads that like to eat rotors. I've found that Cobalt Spec-B's will do the job just about instantly, but obviously those aren't suitable for street use. I'd expect some of the performance street pads, such as Axxis Ultimate and Hawk HP+/HPS, to eventually do the job... I know my Ultimates ate the rotors a bit.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Default Re: what brake rotor with Hawk HPS pads? (Weston)

well im definatly staying away from valuecraft since they are a bi-metal which will warp easier due to the different heat ranges of the metal and expansion.

thats why i was wondering if i needed a slotted rotor for these pads, but you guys seem to think that a blank rotor is fine...

im assuming that the brembo would be a single metal...

and ill make sure ill torque my lugnuts down to all even... dont want to be dumb and warp it due to uneven torque...
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 03:49 AM
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Default Re: what brake rotor with Hawk HPS pads? (crxgator)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The EBC pads were your problem, not the rotors.</TD></TR></TABLE>

^what he said^
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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so ebc greenstuff sucks?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ebc greenstuff sucks</TD></TR></TABLE>

^what he said^
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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Default Re: what brake rotor with Hawk HPS pads? (Weston)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Weston &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd expect some of the performance street pads, such as Axxis Ultimate and Hawk HP+/HPS, to eventually do the job... I know my Ultimates ate the rotors a bit.
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I had some combination of uneven pad material transfer and/or warpage with my new Brembos and Ultimates after one weekend at BeaveRun Bleh!
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Sounds like beaverun does bad things to cars..some one else had other problems they blamed on that track.. humph..
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Well, I will say this - it has 2 straights where you top out between 100-130ish depending on your car, and it's really just a modified oval. Put those two together and you have really hot brakes and your driver side tires will be destroyed because you're doing almost all right turns Still, it was tons of fun though!!
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