ight this is my situation, I've searched and I know what to do for the boosting process, but I like how the R motor sounds (VTEC) wise, but the GSR block is cheaper than the R block, so what would I have to do to get that R VTEC sound? get the b16 head and Intake and Exhaust cams with a Shunk 2 Intake Manifold? or just get the b16 head and use the GSR cams instead?

 

probably a single stage IM, and some beefier cams?

 

which cams? and Intake manifold?

 

biggest cams you can find and the shortest fattest intake manifold

i just have to call you a *** for wanting upgrades "FOR THAT MAD TITE VTEC SOUND TYPE R +20HP W@W!!@@!!"

 

um...ok apparently u cant be mature enough to give me one answer, you gotta say stupid **** like that.

 

Well your not gonna want sick cams if your boosting. Just try to find something slightly better than stock. Skunk2 makes a set of turbo cams. I have a GSR and I love the way my VTEC sounds. The one thing that should be changed is the dual runner intake manifold. I think GSR heads have a better design for boost applications. This is just my opinion though.

 

ahh I see what you mean, but I dont understand something, this is off topic, but how is it that the b16 Vortech chargers make better whp and tq and bhp than the GSR motor?

 

not trying to sound like a jerk, but there is a world of a difference between the sound of vtec crossover from a b18c and a b18c5.

 

I noticed the other day that this R and this GSR was going at it, and both had Intake and Exhaust, well the GSR and the Type R engaged in VTEC and the R's crossover was louder than the the GSR, and I was reading that the GSR intake and exhaust cams arent bigger than the R cams, I ono but I think the sound had more to do with the heads on the blocks. I think the b16 head has the deeper sound to it than the GSR.

 

i know on stock programmed motors, the crossover point is at different rpms...


my friends b18c hits vtec at 4400.....my type R hits vtec stock at 5800.

 

ahh ic ic

 

well, the crossover point is currently set at 5000. but even then the switch is quite noticeable....it was even more so running open downpipe...


it sounded so good though..

 

Not to be rude or anything but why have a car that sounds good when it can run even better but with an "ok" sound, so to say. Then again I don't have VTec. But I DO like the sound of a good TURBO!

 

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If in fact there was a way to get the "R vtec sound", why would you think you need a b16 head, with b16 cams, or GSR cams for that matter? If you really wanted your engine to sound like a b18c5 (thats what the USDM ITR engine is coded), then you would buy a b18c5, which would mean b18c5 head, cams, and intake manifold, as well as header, and exhaust, all of which contribute to an engine's tone. But IMO using an engine's tone to decide whether or not to purchase it is pretty weak.
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If you had read correctly, you would have found that ITR cams have significantly longer duration and higher lift than GSR cams.
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As I said before, sound has to do with a lot more than the design of the head; it could be something as simple as a differently designed intake, or different exhaust. And again, the ITR head is b18c5, not any sort of b16. The GSR engine sounds different also because of its 2-stage IM, where vtec engages at 4400rpm but the sound you hear at 5800rpm or so is actually the secondaries opening up.
You have a lot more research to do.

 

excellent post. I was thinking this same thing. Not sure exactly what makes it sound different, but if I were to guess, I would guess that the cams have a big role in the difference.

 

hey man thanks for the information, I understand now.