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These cant be good compression numbers, is my motor gone?

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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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The other day i was having alot of problems with my car and i thought it was all done by the dizzy because i was throwing left and right for stupid ****. So i swapped dizzy's and when i turned the key it wouldnt crank. Throw my old one back on and it would sound like ice in a blender turned to slusshie. I had a friend look at it and he said to do a compression test. And today i finally had time to do it and these are my shitty numbers, is my motor blown?

1: 35psi
2: 33psi
3: 34psi
4: 15psi (aww ****)

When i get a day off of work and get a chance im going to pull the head, what should be the first thing im looking for?

Also i did a compression test a couple months back and i had 180s all across the board. So i know this cant be good one bit.

Motor: 94 JDM GSR
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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Default Re: These cant be good compression numbers, is my motor gone? (Luserkid)

I'd make sure you are doing the compression test right.

The numbers are VERY low, but the 3 that are close values leads me to believe you are doing something wrong.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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well if its turbo you probably fried all the piston rings, fried pistons, bent rods etc anything can happen when turboed
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Yea its turboed. And i think im doing the compression test right.

I started with cylinder one and crank the motor over 3 times (3 full rotations) and these are the numbers it showed. Even if i went longer thats the highest the numbers would go. Ill try it later tonight when someone comes home and they could turn the car over for me.

I never really boosted the car cause i had a boost leak in one of my intercooler pippings so the max i did was about 5psi. One time it spiked though to 10psi and died. So im thinking that fucked it up. Ill try the compression test again later on.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. One time it spiked though to 10psi and died. So im thinking that fucked it up. Ill try the compression test again later on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn, that could be it.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd make sure you are doing the compression test right.

The numbers are VERY low, but the 3 that are close values leads me to believe you are doing something wrong.
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dude that sucks
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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Try cranking it over 5-6 times and see what the results are. Are you sure the compression tester was screwed in all the way? If so and the motor is toast, run a leak down test. Prolly blew out the ringlands or something else. Was the motor smoking a lot? Were you getting a lot of blow by?
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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mAKE SURE YOUR injectors are unplugged,

make sure you are holding down the gas pedal as you are cranking,

Your car would not be running if your C#'s were really that low



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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Ok this motor is damn weird. When i got those numbers the motor sounded like it didnt want to turn over, it just sounded like the dizzy was spinning but the motor was cranking. Now when i went out to crank it i just held it there for a good while and the motor started to want to crank (but i disconnected the dizzy connectors) and i got a reading of 160 (should have kept it going i bet i would have hit 180) then when i went to do the 2nd cylinder it went back to **** mode and didnt give me any readings.

Any ideas what could be going on with the motor? Im ******* clueless and i wont have a weekend free to trouble shoot until next month so help me out
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YOUR MAMA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mAKE SURE YOUR injectors are unplugged,

make sure you are holding down the gas pedal as you are cranking,

Your car would not be running if your C#'s were really that low



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Next time i go out ill do it this way, but should i connect the dizzy when i do it this way?

Also the motor never smoked and i dont know what a blow by is. But i never had any real problem with the motor until i swapped out the dizzy's. But now im back to the same dizzy i was using before i swapped it.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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Dang your numbers are even lower then what mine was a few months ago.
Mine read 50 psi. It wouldn't even turn over. lol.
My vavles were bent.
I replaced with REV valves, dual valve springs, and retainers. My numbers are still low but it's at 150 and i can drive. Still need to rebuild my bottom end.
Oh the motor was turbo prior to the bent valves. And only had 40k total on it.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Default Re: These cant be good compression numbers, is my motor gone? (Luserkid)

id check your battery/starter, make sure the motor is actually cranking and cranking good, if not that would explain low compression numbers
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Is there any way to check the starter with a volt meter? Cause once it started to crank normally i was thinking it was the Starter. Also i think i might need to change my ICM but everytime i do a test that shows good but i get a code 15 (ignition) (thats very confusing).
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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BLOW BY IS when your ring landings go out, oil slips into your cynlinders and burns up. Is there smoke coming out your valve cover hose??





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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YOUR MAMA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Is there smoke coming out your valve cover hose??





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No smoke anywhere, other then normal exhaust fumes from the exhaust.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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arent your #'s supposed to be in the 100+ range?
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">arent your #'s supposed to be in the 100+ range?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea i had them in 180 when i did this a couple months ago and when the car wanted to work a couple hours ago i got cylinder 1 to 160 so it might be something else then the motor.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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Maybe instead of doing a compression test, just do a leak down which will check more than the compression. I dont really want to explain how to do it, but I am sure there is a write up on it sopmewhere on here.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 05:00 AM
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When doing a compressin test:

Make sure the engine is warm; When thing heat up, they expand creating a better seal.

Make sure to unplug the injectors; Don't need fuel being sprayed in there.

Make sure to unplug the distributor as well.

Make sure to hold the throttle wide open; Air can't be pulled in and compressed if your not allowing it to get in the first place.

If your numbers are low, add ~1 teaspoon of oil and re-check; If the numbers went up, your rings could be shot.

But the way your numbers vary between tests.....could your compression tester have taken a dive?

And as CivicGSR225 mentioned, a leak down test would also help out here.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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The compression testor is my neighbors and he only used the thing once then never used it again. But he did use it along *** time ago, so maybe it is busted (thats what i thought as well).

I cant get the engine to warm up becasue theres no way for the engine to even turn on (main problem thats why i thought it blew and doing the test). Next weekend (when i finally get free time) ill test everything and see how that goes. Im starting to lean towards my starter is fucked.

Is there anyway to test a Starter and its volts? Thanks again for all your help guys.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The other day i was having alot of problems with my car and i thought it was all done by the dizzy because i was throwing left and right for stupid ****. So i swapped dizzy's and when i turned the key it wouldnt crank. Throw my old one back on and it would sound like ice in a blender turned to slusshie. I had a friend look at it and he said to do a compression test. And today i finally had time to do it and these are my shitty numbers, is my motor blown?

1: 35psi
2: 33psi
3: 34psi
4: 15psi (aww ****)

When i get a day off of work and get a chance im going to pull the head, what should be the first thing im looking for?

Also i did a compression test a couple months back and i had 180s all across the board. So i know this cant be good one bit.

Motor: 94 JDM GSR</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok plug everything in...open your fuse box in the engine bay and take out the fuse for the ecu...dont **** with anything and just crank it...you shouldnt beable to fry your ecu and it should crank.
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