Hey guys, I did a search but it seems no one seems to have an identical problem with what I have. Ok, my car is currently tuned with an AEM EMS and I have to set the idle to fairly high at warm to about 1500. The reason why I do this is because if I set my idle to about 800, it dies out easily. So the tuner put my idle high so it won't die so easily. However it still happens.... It now dies when coasting neutral to a stop light or whenever I decide to stop... My tuner said it could be the distributor going out. I've never replaced it. It's about 50k on the motor.

I'm using an external coil with a MSD SCI if that matters. There's another issue regarding startup though. Not sure if it's related but my car takes like 3-4 more cranks to start. It's possible that it's just the EMS though. Thanks guys.

 

i have that same problem with the same MSD external coil. i thought it was just oil in the distributor but it sounds like you have the same exact problem as me. leaking any oil?

help us out...

 

Are you using an AEM EMS? I haven't taken the distributor off yet though but there's no oil surrounding the area of the distributor.

 

A bit more information so maybe someone could help me out. When no gas is applied, it bogs ALOT. Is this a sign?

 

I burned through 2 igniters and i doubt this is the case.First symptoms of an igniter problem is the engine cranks but it doesnt want to start, then5 minutes later it starts up fine.Once i was rolling down my street and my car bogged 3 times.If your igniter is broken(fried), the engine would crank 300 times and it would never start.So, the only of finding out, is waiting for it to fail, or replace it now.
In my case, when you applied some gas, the engine would pick-up right and not bog like you.Im no mechanic, but you can always use my strategy, replace everything.SOrry bro.

 

No that's exactly what's going on. When gas is applied, it doesn't bog. When gas isn't applied when coasting, it bogs.

 

Then there a good chance its an igniter failure, pretty common on hondas.BUT, dont replace with a generic one, youll regret it

 

i couldnt get my car to start at all, then I changed the dist. rotor and then it finally started and then stopped like it was holding.

could this be an igniter issue?

 

no, im not running AEM EMS. But im having the EXACT same problem. im getting a whole new OE distributor and getting rid of the MSD external coil so i will post either tomorrow or on wednesday and let you know what happens.

 

i have a b18c with a hondata s200. mine is fully built and what not. but i am having some of the same problem. every once in awhile when pushing in the clutch to come to a stop it shuts off. at first the car wouldnt run and we had to change the cap and rotor. but after that i have this problem now. i was gonna try the msd box as well. i also have a bad random missfire on mine. at first i was thinking fuel problems. but now im not so sure. anyway. sorry icant really be of help. just thought id add that there are others with your pain. hope someone figures this out. cause it is drivin me nuts.

 

I have the clutch issue where it goes out when it's coming to a stop. But mine can go out even when it's not even in gear.

99b18, I'm gonna change out the dizzy and see if that will fix it. I'll report back.

Also check your fuel rail and make sure the seals are all good. I'm sure it could be related.



Modified by Pikachu at 7:23 PM 6/1/2004

 

BUMP to see if anyone has solved this. If it's one of the injectors, whether it be poorly installed or faulty, could it cause this? I highly doubt it but it could happen.

 

its the external coil.

i had the same problem a long time ago, with the msd external coil. i heard that if the coil is located where a lot of heat is, then it can wear it down. remove the coil and see if that solves your problem. <<<<cheapest solution anyways. doesnt sound like a bad ignitor because if it was the ignitor it would just shut off and not start for about 5-10 mins.

 

IACV, clogged PVC, Dirty oil, TPS

 

It could be the tps but I'll check it to make sure.

 

i have a similar problem but my battery light is on also

 

if the tps was damaged or even unplugged, all it would do is have slight rough idle and may stumble(or hesitate) upon acceleration.

all the other sensors would throw codes too

 

Pikachu,

You can bypass the ignitior totally with the AEM EMS (coil output #1 pin A21) and the MSD ignition so that you don't have to worry about it at all. It's also away to make sure the ignitor isn't the problem. Also with it dying when you let of the throttle could be some work needed on the map so that it doesn't die, it should catch itself fine.

 

Pikachu, what size injectors are you running? Were you there and watching while you tuner was tuning the car? I'm not too familiar with EMS, but we've had this same type of problems with a lot of our turbo cars. Make sure everything is calibrated right for your injectors and so forth. Also check your IACV, 3-bar etc. Might just be a bad connection somewhere or something with your fuel setup. I've gone through over 10 distributers with my H22 and everytime they went out wasn't anything like you're explaining. Could be the MSD though

 

Found the problem. For some odd reason, I pulled the plug going into my coil and then checked everything twice over, it now works fine. I took it for a drive last night and it drove like a dream. If it comes back, I'll post again.

BTW, I'm running 550cc Saturated injectors.

 

maybe ill check the connections on mine. and see how that werks. thanx for the update.

 

The MSD SCI is frying your igniter.

There is a compatability problem using a capacitive system on an inductive vehicle.

Happened to me twice.

 

Hey you guys, a little off your topic but when your car wasn't starting could you still hear a loud click in the engine bay when you turned the key? My girlfriends 94 integra LS is having this problem. It is stock so I know its not the same as your problem with the MSD but I am wondering if this could be the ignitor going out? any help or ideas would be helpfull! thanks!

DRIVE HARD -eric

 

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sounds like your starter or bad connection to your battery.

1. check your connections..ie. battery, make sure its tight...etc.

2. hit your starter with a hammer to see if it starts
- if it starts then its your starter
3. could be your ignition where your key goes in too.


if it was your ignitor or distributor, your car would atleast try to turn over.

HTH