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Old May 26, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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I have a b18b lying in my house right now. I have the funds to begin a massive buildup of this engine, but I need to know where to start. I'm torn between trying to raise compression and running N/A or boost, but ultimately where i'd like to go is high comp N/A if I can maintain reliability. I don't expect a LOT of power, but something nice would be kind of fun.

Help me out guys: What are some proven techniques for this buildup and where can I look for examples? Thanks in advance.
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Old May 26, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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reliability, lot of power, nice, fun, these are pretty vague terms. How much money do you have? What are the goals of the car? What kind of 1/4 times do you want to see? Hp numbers maybe? Is it supposed to be a daily driven engine?
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Old May 26, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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Daily driven, and i'd like to see about 170whp
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Old May 27, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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build a lsvtec
buy a complete b16
use the b16 pistons, head, oil pump,
get some itr cams and theres your 170 whp
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Old May 27, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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I'm looking to do a b18b, not an LS/vtec. There are simply too many variables involved to making a good ls/vtec and I do not want that kind of headache.
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Old May 27, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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CTR pistons
Balance bottom end
micropolish crank
arp rod bolts
good headwork & im/tb
good valve job
valvetrain of your choice
crower 404's
4-1 header, 2.5" collector
2.5" exhaust
tuning
safc or hondata

There ya go. Don't forget to clay your motor.
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Old May 27, 2004 | 05:45 AM
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B18C5 !!!!!!
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Old May 27, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95BlkGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18C5 !!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>


WTF???

anyways just slap on a turd-blow kit and there you go. boost is so fun.
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Old May 27, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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170whp is a pretty modest goal. If you really want to go with the NA route, the best thing to do would be to build an lsvtec, or start with a b16. The b18b is really good for boost, but you don't need boost to hit 170whp.
Lsvtec isn't that bad... if you have the funds, take it to a place that you know will do it right, someone with expertise.
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Old May 27, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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good question for which there is much information if you search, and here's a good thread to find some answers; it's a 9 page thread on all motor LS. Hope it helps and good luck with your b18b buildup

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=809902
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Old May 28, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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go turbo because even though everyone has goals once they get there they want more power, and with turbo you can just turn up the boost.
get a precision sc34
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Old May 28, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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I did a modest b18b allmotor build, i/h/e cams and a ported head (automatic). I kept up with GSRs but damn for 3k, i kick myself in the head for that. Im currently building an b18b for turbo. Expect to pay a lot of money to make an all motor ls. One more thing if your gonna do an all motor ls, at least get a gsr tranny. My 5speed LS right now has some long gears (esp 3rd).
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Old May 28, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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perfect thread for ya! -&gt; https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=818820
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Old May 28, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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I've been thru the LS phase, then turbo LS, then LSVT, then turbo LSVT.

Here's the basic low down... if you want to go N/A with a honda... I'd say go with a vtec setup from the git. Otherwise you will spends lots of money just to keep up with stock GSR's and ITR's.... you already start 30hp down from a GSR.

You goals are ONLY 170whp ? I say don't bother with a whole build then !!! Save some money !! Do a compression test on the LS motor, if it's in good condition, just throw on some new bearings, seals, gaskets, water and oil pumps, etc and keep the stock internals. Do a little research on turbos and compressor maps and choose a properly sized turbo, like a t3 or a hybrid t3/t4 and a quality intercooler.

Drop some ching and get some 2b hondata action tuned at a reputable shop (or uberdata, w/e you want) and you're set !!!

A turbo LS on stock internals/head, etc. will easily net you 190-200+ whp at low boost (6-8psi) on a conservative tune. No need to buy pistons/rods/sleeves, etc.

X2 (my $2.50)
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Old May 28, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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you must be kidding, did you look at the the thread above you? That LS will romp a stock type-R, and it cost way less than a c1 or c5 swap. Stock gsr's? a 404 build will kill gsr's.

Something people don't realize is a stock 140hp LS w/ b16 tranny is basically dead even with a stock b16 w/ 160hp, it's the LS tranny that slows it down. it's a born VTEC killer.

so if you really want to destroy VTEC's you'll need a VTEC tranny , get a b16 cable tranny it's the perfect mod for the LS, vtec's can forget about catching up in 3rd gear

Here's what you need for 175whp or so:

- DC Sports 4-2-1
- Some 2.25" Exhaust
- Intake
- 404's + springs
- SAFC or Emanage
- pr3 Pistons (10.8CR)

You could skip the pistons and just mill oyur head a little bit, you'ld be more like styleTeg around the mid-high 160's.

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Old May 28, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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don't listen to these haters, 70% of this forum is gsr owners, so go figure.

You can make a 14 second LS for 2000-2500 or so, that's cheaper and faster than any swap. Bottom Line.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunkintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">perfect thread for ya! -&gt; https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=818820 </TD></TR></TABLE>
i was just about to bring up that thread.

404s
slightly milled head
p+p
and youve got yourself a 170whp car
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