1995 Integra LS/SE
OBD I
P75


I have had this problem for quite a while. Car will usually run fine for a while. Occasionally when it is Hot. When I turn the key i get nothing. After the car cools off it will fire right up. Now I know a common resolution to this problem is the Main Relay. I could hear my fuel pump and the FP gauge under the hood showed fuel pressure when i was trying to crank. The Main Relay was visually inspec and tested by the Helms standards and everything looked and tested fine.

Now I have had this problem through several different starters. I have no problem swappin this napa one back out for another. but just curious if it could be something else ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zilverz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... When I turn the key i get nothing...</TD></TR></TABLE>So it's not cranking. The main relay isn't in the starter circuit, so it won't be that. The starter solenoid gets replaced with the starter, so that's probably not it either. How about a flaky ignition switch?

Manual or automatic transmission? There's a starter interlock, either way. There's a switch on the clutch pedal (MT) or near the base of the shift lever (AT). I think(?) with the automatic, there's also a relay involved in that interlock system.

 

you probably have a faulty engine coolant temp. sensor. during cold start the ecu will run a rich mixture and retarded timing. when it warms up it changes the a/f mixture and timing to normal operation. your ECT sensor might be reading cold start all the time and sending rich mixture even on a hot start condition.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you probably have a faulty engine coolant temp. sensor...</TD></TR></TABLE>If his starter isn't cranking, then it can't have anything to do with the ECT sensor. That's why it's important for zilvers to say whether it cranks or not.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zilverz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1995 Integra LS/SE
OBD I
P75


I have had this problem for quite a while. Car will usually run fine for a while. Occasionally when it is Hot. When I turn the key i get nothing. After the car cools off it will fire right up. Now I know a common resolution to this problem is the Main Relay. I could hear my fuel pump and the FP gauge under the hood showed fuel pressure when i was trying to crank. The Main Relay was visually inspec and tested by the Helms standards and everything looked and tested fine.

Now I have had this problem through several different starters. I have no problem swappin this napa one back out for another. but just curious if it could be something else ? </TD></TR></TABLE>


There is a click noise, but the starter doesnt not crank. It is an Auto tranny. I did try putting it in nuetral and starting. Unsuccessful. I did test the shifter interlock and it gives the signal when cold. Just never had a voltmeter when it was hot and wouldnt start. I do have a Viper alarm with ignition kill... soo that looks like another relay in the mix. Havent swapped it out. Do you know where this other relay you were mentioning is ?

I have also tried jumping the car battery and wiggling the main power wire to the starter around while friend was trying to start it and it didnt seem to have an effect.

 

I thought from your first post that the starter wasn't cranking. But then you mentioned the main relay so...???

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zilverz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... Do you know where this other relay you were mentioning is ?</TD></TR></TABLE>No, I'd have to look it up (hope I remember). I just remember seeing it in the wiring diagram once (mine's manual).

Alarm with ignition kill certainly adds more questions to the mix.

 

it could be the ignition module....does your car ever die out if you get on it or is it just when your starting it??

 

A failed ignition module won't prevent the starter from cranking the engine. Same goes for coil, spark plugs, fuel pump, ECU, headlights, stereo, trunk latch, door hinges or anything else that isn't in the starter circuit!

I don't even know about the alarm... You said it has ignition kill, do you really mean the ignition system (coil & spark plugs)? Does your alarm kill the starter or the ignition?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A failed ignition module won't prevent the starter from cranking the engine. Same goes for coil, spark plugs, fuel pump, ECU, headlights, stereo, trunk latch, door hinges or anything else that isn't in the starter circuit!

I don't even know about the alarm... You said it has ignition kill, do you really mean the ignition system (coil & spark plugs)? Does your alarm kill the starter or the ignition?
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Thank you to everyone for taking the time to try and help me with my problem.


It is tied in with the key ignition i believe ... with a relay coming off the signal wire i believe. the alarm seems to operate proper with all the other relays .. but that one could still be geeked up i guess. Altho, my friend had his head under the hood and said he heard a clicking and motioned to me in the starter area.

I have had several starters in this car. Could there be something that kills starters premature ? Or you still leanin towards a relay in the starter circuit ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zilverz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have had several starters in this car. Could there be something that kills starters premature ? Or you still leanin towards a relay in the starter circuit ?</TD></TR></TABLE>I'm afraid to lean towards anything from here. I'm not the one with my head under your hood.

Next time it doesn't start, I'd check the starter signal (little wire) with a voltmeter. Also, I'd make sure the big fat wire to the starter was clean & tight. Battery cables clean & tight, on both ends of both cables. You gotta have all those stupid little things under control first before you start guessing about other stuff.

I'd check the continuity through the ignition switch to see how it's closing the starter circuit. If you can wiggle the key & make that switch go flaky, then there you go...

It's not real easy to kill a starter prematurely. Were they new or rebuilt? Since you've had a couple I'm kinda thinking it's not the starter. But it's easy to have corrosion in the big power leads, even where the wire itself is crimped into the end connector.