BEST CAMS TO GET???
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i have a b16a1 in my crx and im trying to break into the 13's my friend said the crower stage 3 cams were the best out and it would defenitly would put me close, what do yall think
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you should do your homework. there are hundreds of posts about cams and which ones are better than others. you didn't specify what your setup was or what your future setup would be so how can anyone tell you what cams are best for you if you don't give us the information we need. do you plan on turbo/supercharger/nos/na what are you doing with it?
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less info gets you smartass posts like mine.
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you should do your homework. there are hundreds of posts about cams and which ones are better than others. you didn't specify what your setup was or what your future setup would be so how can anyone tell you what cams are best for you if you don't give us the information we need. do you plan on turbo/supercharger/nos/na what are you doing with it?
MORE INFO GETS YOU MORE INFORMATION
help us help you...less info gets you smartass posts like mine.
You're not really gonna make any power with huge cams in a tiny low comp stock b16a. If your motor is basically stock, your best bet are some Skunk2 stage 1's or some CTR cams.
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well i just want to add some all motor horsepower, no turbo or supercharger. maybe a 75 shot of nos. probably going to do a port and polish and new fuel pump msd ignition and also a intake
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stage 3 camshafts on a stock compression b16a1.... lol, thats funny.
Skunk Stage 1's are no different from CTR's, or 00 - 01+ ITR Camshafts. An if your running stock or your going to get a thiner head gasket I would still only run the CTR's. If you tune them properly and have some good bolt-on's you could hit a high 13's mid 13's. But that number depends on a million different things so all the same, you buy you try, it doesn't work, go buy some more
Get the CTR's.
Skunk Stage 1's are no different from CTR's, or 00 - 01+ ITR Camshafts. An if your running stock or your going to get a thiner head gasket I would still only run the CTR's. If you tune them properly and have some good bolt-on's you could hit a high 13's mid 13's. But that number depends on a million different things so all the same, you buy you try, it doesn't work, go buy some more

Get the CTR's.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsteezy1290 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in your opinon what all needs to be done to run the stage 3's</TD></TR></TABLE>
A hardcore header and exhaust. Lots of compression, done up valvetrain, fuel and lots of tuning
A hardcore header and exhaust. Lots of compression, done up valvetrain, fuel and lots of tuning
To run stage three or even two cams you have to change the compressionn of you engine, which means buying some aftermarket pistons like je or ross or any other, if u wana go all motor you can bore it out, or if you dont have a lot of money to spend the cheaper way is to get some itr pistons. then for the cams you have to upgrade your valvetrain, valve springs, retainers, racing valves and obviously cam gears. Yes all that work just for stage 3 cams, for all motor there are a lot of brands to go with, skunk2 is very good and is fairly cheap, from what ive heard skunk2, toda, and jun are the best for all motor v-tec.
You don't need to get new pistons for stage 2 cams, normally if you have a very good tunner and a thin headgasket you can use them pretty well. Anything stage2 on a b16 is going to be over kill anyways even with a high comp. The motor was just not built to make power past 8k. An there are not great advantage's accept you might blow your's up before someone else lol. I would stick witha stage 1 camshaft, you could get away with a stage 2 but your going to have to bump up your compression do your valve train etc.. Pistons are not needed, they wil help but, you can get the compression else where though.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxirex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't need to get new pistons for stage 2 cams, normally if you have a very good tunner and a thin headgasket you can use them pretty well. Anything stage2 on a b16 is going to be over kill anyways even with a high comp. The motor was just not built to make power past 8k. An there are not great advantage's accept you might blow your's up before someone else lol. I would stick witha stage 1 camshaft, you could get away with a stage 2 but your going to have to bump up your compression do your valve train etc.. Pistons are not needed, they wil help but, you can get the compression else where though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So a B16 with a R/S ratio to rev to 10K all day long on a stock block isnt built to make power past 8K? Check the redline on a bone stock CTR motor
So a B16 with a R/S ratio to rev to 10K all day long on a stock block isnt built to make power past 8K? Check the redline on a bone stock CTR motor
CTR Cams are the best bang for stock b16a (Considering you have no mods done to the head and Im guessing its stock hah). CTR Cams are oem...oem lasts long unlike aftermarket cams...so oem = last longer (And did I mention there are oem? heh)
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So a B16 with a R/S ratio to rev to 10K all day long on a stock block isnt built to make power past 8K? Check the redline on a bone stock CTR motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
a CTR motor, has a different block and is also a 1.8l. So if you think you can make power past 8k on a 1.6l you go for it. If you make power its not even going to be power that you ever notice. Its not worth the extra money and time spent.
So a B16 with a R/S ratio to rev to 10K all day long on a stock block isnt built to make power past 8K? Check the redline on a bone stock CTR motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
a CTR motor, has a different block and is also a 1.8l. So if you think you can make power past 8k on a 1.6l you go for it. If you make power its not even going to be power that you ever notice. Its not worth the extra money and time spent.
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a CTR motor, has a different block and is also a 1.8l. So if you think you can make power past 8k on a 1.6l you go for it. If you make power its not even going to be power that you ever notice. Its not worth the extra money and time spent.</TD></TR></TABLE>
umm I think that is incorrect. the CTR is a 1.6 b16b.
a CTR motor, has a different block and is also a 1.8l. So if you think you can make power past 8k on a 1.6l you go for it. If you make power its not even going to be power that you ever notice. Its not worth the extra money and time spent.</TD></TR></TABLE>
umm I think that is incorrect. the CTR is a 1.6 b16b.
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Perfect answer
Perfect answer
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umm I think that is incorrect. the CTR is a 1.6 b16b.</TD></TR></TABLE>
FYI... The b16b uses a b18c block, the b16b rods are longer than the b16a because of this, so the R/S ratio is different.
As far as making power out of a b16a, I agree with HybridHatch88 for the most part. A header, cams, and tuning are key, but don't worry about going too crazy with the compression. A simple port job will work wonders also. Be sure to mix your parts correctly, and if you have a first gen b16a, ditch that 58mm TB fast!
umm I think that is incorrect. the CTR is a 1.6 b16b.</TD></TR></TABLE>
FYI... The b16b uses a b18c block, the b16b rods are longer than the b16a because of this, so the R/S ratio is different.
As far as making power out of a b16a, I agree with HybridHatch88 for the most part. A header, cams, and tuning are key, but don't worry about going too crazy with the compression. A simple port job will work wonders also. Be sure to mix your parts correctly, and if you have a first gen b16a, ditch that 58mm TB fast!
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a CTR motor, has a different block and is also a 1.8l. So if you think you can make power past 8k on a 1.6l you go for it. If you make power its not even going to be power that you ever notice. Its not worth the extra money and time spent.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a b16b is a de-stroked b18c5. nothing more.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX-Fluffy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> CTR Cams are the best bang for stock b16a (Considering you have no mods done to the head and Im guessing its stock hah). CTR Cams are oem...oem lasts long unlike aftermarket cams...so oem = last longer (And did I mention there are oem? heh)</TD></TR></TABLE>
CTR and ITR have the same exhaust cam.. ITR are more plentiful therefore cheaper. so get a CTR/ITR Combo. Some1 speak up if i have it backwards and the INTAKE cam is the same between the two.
a CTR motor, has a different block and is also a 1.8l. So if you think you can make power past 8k on a 1.6l you go for it. If you make power its not even going to be power that you ever notice. Its not worth the extra money and time spent.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a b16b is a de-stroked b18c5. nothing more.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX-Fluffy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> CTR Cams are the best bang for stock b16a (Considering you have no mods done to the head and Im guessing its stock hah). CTR Cams are oem...oem lasts long unlike aftermarket cams...so oem = last longer (And did I mention there are oem? heh)</TD></TR></TABLE>
CTR and ITR have the same exhaust cam.. ITR are more plentiful therefore cheaper. so get a CTR/ITR Combo. Some1 speak up if i have it backwards and the INTAKE cam is the same between the two.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx_88_si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
a b16b is a de-stroked b18c5. nothing more.
CTR and ITR have the same exhaust cam.. ITR are more plentiful therefore cheaper. so get a CTR/ITR Combo. Some1 speak up if i have it backwards and the INTAKE cam is the same between the two.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a b16b is a de-stroked b18c5. nothing more.
CTR and ITR have the same exhaust cam.. ITR are more plentiful therefore cheaper. so get a CTR/ITR Combo. Some1 speak up if i have it backwards and the INTAKE cam is the same between the two.</TD></TR></TABLE>
OEM cams are dick compared to aftermarket.
almost $300 for a type r intake cam alone is retarded.
my friend picked up a set of zex stage 2 cams for his b16a3 off ebay in new condition for $250
almost $300 for a type r intake cam alone is retarded.
my friend picked up a set of zex stage 2 cams for his b16a3 off ebay in new condition for $250
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx_88_si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
a b16b is a de-stroked b18c5. nothing more.
CTR and ITR have the same exhaust cam.. ITR are more plentiful therefore cheaper. so get a CTR/ITR Combo. Some1 speak up if i have it backwards and the INTAKE cam is the same between the two.</TD></TR></TABLE>
b16b is pretty much a destroked b18c5, but there are little differences here and there. Such as the intake cam, intake manifold, throttle body, exhaust manifold, and i can't remember, but I thought the valves were a slightly different cut also. But both do use a PR3 head casting and the same block.
a b16b is a de-stroked b18c5. nothing more.
CTR and ITR have the same exhaust cam.. ITR are more plentiful therefore cheaper. so get a CTR/ITR Combo. Some1 speak up if i have it backwards and the INTAKE cam is the same between the two.</TD></TR></TABLE>
b16b is pretty much a destroked b18c5, but there are little differences here and there. Such as the intake cam, intake manifold, throttle body, exhaust manifold, and i can't remember, but I thought the valves were a slightly different cut also. But both do use a PR3 head casting and the same block.
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