sup ya'll.i have a DA9 and i was wondering if theres anyway of installing the 4 point seat harness without welding or drilling. can you guys tell me if there are holes that i can put the three bolts into. thnx guys

 

Unless you are using a roll bar or roll cage, then a 4 point harness will do more harm than good. I suggest not installing them until you can install them properly.

 

I've seen people bolt it in the rear seat belt latch, but personally i would do the Sparco Harness bar if you don't use your back seat alot

http://www.sparcousa.com/harness_bars.asp

safest way to do it unless u go full roll cage

 

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Correct, either way without drilling I dont think there is anyplace to mount it...Stick with Kendall's advice

 

There is no "safe" way to do it if there is no rollover protection, ESPECIALLY if you use them on the street. Nothing is more unpredictable than street driving, somebody can come out of nowhere and hit you and make your car flip over, most likely killing you if you're using harnesses w/ rollover protection. Take my dad for example, last Father's Day he was on the highway and a car came bounding across the median, spun around, and my dad's truck slammed the car's left fender at 60+ mph. There was no warning, and nothing he could have done to avoid it (street were wet, too, after a recent rain).

On top of that, 4-point harnesses aren't that great anyway, I don't think any 4-point setups are FIA approved (correct me if I'm wrong) but 5 or 6-point belts are much safer as the 5th and 6th straps keep the lap belts in place and keep you from going underneath it.

 

i use a "psuedo" 4-pt harness for autox made by scroth and it works well... The rally 3 connects in 1 pt in the rear (i used the c-pillar) where the rally 4 uses 2 (can use ur stock seat best positions). U can easily disconnect them when not in use, and still be able to use ur rear seats...

I would never wear it on the streets however, simply it is impractical and dangerous... when reversing, u cant turn ur torso to look back, nor can u reach ur glove compartment if u needed to...