Well i got my H23 drop in my car.....but i was having trouble starting the car. Then it started so it ran for a while but u can hear the Timing belt making a Flap noise against the Cover....so after a few times of turning it on and off the Engine taht is.....i turn the car on one more time and POP....so now i am giong to take the timing belt off the old enigne and put it on the SI i have now. The other belt i have is off of the same kinda engine too an SI so....can anybody help me with TIPs on how to do this i know if i do it wrong it will mess up my Engine... SO what are the Timing Specs...and how do i get to pully and how do i take the Bolt off please help....

 

somebody please help me

 

you need to get a helms manual my friend.

http://www.helminc.com

or look here

http://icelord.net/honda

 

Get a new belt, and a new tensioner. Belt slap is pretty common in H series motors, though not very common on the h23a and its manual tensioner. Don't reuse the timing belt, if it snaps, kiss your motor good bye.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jackstands &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a new belt, and a new tensioner. Belt slap is pretty common in H series motors, though not very common on the h23a and its manual tensioner. Don't reuse the timing belt, if it snaps, kiss your motor good bye.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah its snap but i was told that u can save the motor or somehting to that. But they told me that if i keep trying to turn the motor on its not good and then the engine is bad but i did not. I was trying to turn the car on and then SNAP and it got quite it was kinda funny cause i was HUH. Then they were like OH your belt snap but lucky u did not try and turn the eninge back on u can still save it just set everything back to Normal or 0 they said. So i mean what do they mean how do i do that i dont know nothing about Timing or should i just take it to a Place to get it Fixed?

 

you may have bent your valves...if you can work on cars get a helms, if you cant have a place do it

 

Unless you want to spend a weekend figuring out your engine, take it somewhere to get it done. The TBelt change gets easier with practice, but the first time is a pain. If you know what TDC means and how to set it, then you may be able to start on this. If you start on it you must finish it. You will need a manual.

 

for hondas if your time belt breaks then so does your valves, they get bent then your piston rings get all fuKED up then you gotta fix all of it. Make sure you always replace the o rings too.

 

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how do i do that i dont know nothing about Timing or should i just take it to a Place to get it Fixed?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think this question provides its own answer

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeaLemonBrisk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for hondas if your time belt breaks then so does your valves, they get bent then your piston rings get all fuKED up then you gotta fix all of it. Make sure you always replace the o rings too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Definetely not true. I have been fortunate enough to repair several Hondas that the belt snapped and did not bend any valves. I have repaired countless others with out ever having any ring damage.

 

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Definetely not true. I have been fortunate enough to repair several Hondas that the belt snapped and did not bend any valves. I have repaired countless others with out ever having any ring damage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn....Thanks that was good *** info i just got off work. So i called some stores today they were Quoting me $700 just to have it done. I was in shock i was like screw that they say i need um....to replace my belt, Of course duh...they said Water pump and Seals i think they are tryinhg to push more money out of me. BUt i am not going to go their i just said do my belt and thats it they said oKay then 500 bucks. So i dont know i will just take all yours info and do it myself and Adjust my Timing Myself thanks but um if anyone can help me with info that will do me alot of good. Cause if i Order a Manual it will Take a while for it to be here i been without my care for 1 month now and i cant take this ****. I miss my SI. So does anybody know the Specs of what i should set my Timing to off the top of their heads?

 

There are marks on the cam sprockets, the crankshaft, and the balance shafts for everything to line up when you are doing a timing belt or setting the mechanical timing. I am not real sure what the ignition timing is off hand. It is probably somewhere around 10-15 degrees BTDC

 

so i am confused now which belt do i need? i mean because #17 in the photo is what broke. i mean do i have to replace that little belt too its #11? and what the hell is that belt anyways?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeaLemonBrisk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for hondas if your time belt breaks then so does your valves, they get bent then your piston rings get all fuKED up then you gotta fix all of it. Make sure you always replace the o rings too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong! How would your rings get messed up? It is an interfearencemotor but... They do not always break or should I say bend. Usually will have indentures in the piston that are hit. does not effect the rings. I have 20k on my beater prelude bought for 800 bucks with broken belt had jap spec head layin around in the basment. Got aheadgasket kit and presto H23vtec beater

 

Okay i am trying to take that bolt of where they Pully is connected, but i have nothing strong enough to take it off. i have an Air gun but it is not strong enough either. is there a better way i can take it off? If u dont know where i am talking about look at the Pic and its # 1 there is a bolt right their i need help getting off what is a good way? Please help.

 

Use a large screwdriver or a pry bar to keep the flywheel from spinning and have someone else use a large breaker bar to take the front pulley bolt off.

 

I had to use two people to do it. I used the PS belt (since I don't reeeaaally need it) and wrapped it around the pulley for grip, then one of us gripped the pulley with some big *** pliers, and I used a big breaker bar on the bolt (with my feet, kicking at it). When it came loose I kicked him hard, but oh well, don't tell your helper this may happen

That little belt is the balance belt. Also, don't forget tp use one of the Tbelt cover screws to lock the adjusters in place - that bolt hole to the left of part #18.