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Has anyone bypassed/removed thier charcoal can?

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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:32 AM
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Hey guys, i've taken my battery, moved it to the rear, removed my pass seat, and made a plate for nos, ecu, ecu harness, and the fuse box from the engine comparntmeant, basicly just cleaning it out.. the charcoal box... wtf.. it does'nt make power.. why is it in my car !!!!...

can i remove this, any ecu problems, what the hell is it.. etc, and i'll add a picture, cuase we all knows the picture gets the reply
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:46 AM
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My suggestion would be, to stop ripping your car apart and take a "Basics of Automobiles" class.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:57 AM
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No, you cannot by pass it because it is needed.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:05 AM
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as i asked, what does it do, why could'nt i remove it.




Modified by DewMota at 5:48 PM 4/27/2004
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:30 AM
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The charcoal traps gasoline vapors from the fuel tank (and carburetor on older vehicles). Later, the vapors are purged and drawn into the engine when the vehicle is being driven.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 06:26 AM
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You need that chit, dont remove it.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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Jeep Grand Cherokee's have that same stupid POS. It only traps the gasoline vapors when the car is sitting there turned off. On most Jeeps it's right where the drivers front tire flexes so many people rip theirs off four wheeling and other people remove them.

Most people didn't notice anything different.

EVERYONE who has had it removed passed emissions.

So I say if you are removing all that other crap why the hell not.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:03 AM
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What are the effects of not having one? My civic shell never had it so i never put one in.. whats the deal with this thing??
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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Removing it hurts your gas mileage and increases your emissions output, but not the emissions they test at the smog station. If you like smog, go spend 12 hours in Tijuana. A bloody nose, black boogers, clogged sinuses, dizziness, and that god awful smell are enough to make me adamant about retaining the smog equipment on my car. I don't want my car to smell like a big lawnmower...
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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Default Re: Has anyone bypassed/removed thier charcoal can? (DewMota)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DewMota &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the charcoal box... wtf.. it does'nt make power.. why is it in my car !!!!...

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Nor does your windshield...take that bitch out, It'll save you some weight and eliminate the need for A/C
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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If I remember correctly oh OBDII version b (all 99-00 model) have sensor in their as well as in the gas tank. So if you don't have it the check light will go on and you will not pass smog.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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This is required because when you fill your tank with cold fuel it will expand if the air temperature is warmer than the fuel in the ground. As the fuel expands it has to go somewhere and that tank is to take the overflow of fuel, or vapors.

One of the tubes leads up to the "purge cannister". This is the "vent to air" route when fuel vapor pressure is too high. The vapors are captured in the purge canister and then sucked into the engine for burning when driving.

So you sort of don't want to remove that "plastic box" - unless of course you like the smell of gas fumes.

By the way, a high concentration of gas fumes around your car is not recommended. A small spark in the wrong place and -- BOOM!
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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thank you
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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I used the EK can instead of trying to fit the integra one when I put the B18C1 in my 97 HX. Works fine, passed CT emissions last December.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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never heard of this thing.... where is it located? anyone have a pic?
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FlatBrokeHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Nor does your windshield...take that bitch out, It'll save you some weight and eliminate the need for A/C </TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO!! hahaha!
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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What year B18C1 ECU did you use? If you use 98 and back ECU, those ecu does not lock for sensor in the Charcoal Tube or the gas tank.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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i just want as stripped engine bay as i can. car is total stripped, with the new block and tranny, hood, doors, and lca's / trailing arms i should be in around 1900lbs

mind you this is a 1999 civic sedan auto, now a 5spd, with nothing in it.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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I have a 96 gsr ecu. am I gonna have problems? So far the only CEL I have gotten since my swap (2 years now) is due to a bad IACV.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FlatBrokeHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Nor does your windshield...take that bitch out, It'll save you some weight and eliminate the need for A/C </TD></TR></TABLE>

yooo dawg da wheels an sturrin wheel dont make power neidaaa, maybe i should take my doors off too, (ps, not EVERYTHING is about power ) (PPS, i dont really talk like that)
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DewMota &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wtf.. it does'nt make power.. why is it in my car !!!!...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Marvelous!

Let's see some pictures of your car.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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i also have no idea what u guys are talking about...anyone know the exact name for this? or have pics...or could say where its located exactly?
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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hi
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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WD-40 is flamable...spray some of that **** in your intake...m4d p0w3r

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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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For you guys wondering what charcoal canister is...
Its number 11 in this pic.

What its for? Believe it or not gasoline gives off vapors that are harmful for the environment and the charcoal absorbs some of them.

Is it necessary? Nope it isn't. JDM eg6's didn't come with them. And the one I had when I was stationed in japan ran like a bat out of hell. But the canister has little to do with your engines performance.
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