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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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First off I would just like to make it clear that 92-97 h22 mains are 50mm and 98-01 are 55mm. Im not sure if anyone had tried this but say I had a built block from 97 that spun a main bearing and also have a good block from 01, would I be able to use the caps and crank from the 01 if I line bored the 97 block's mains to 55mm? Do the dowel pins line up? If not would it be possible to get good 92-97 main caps and bore them to 55mm and use the 01 crank or would too much material be taken off for it to work properly?
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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id like to know this too.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 03:16 AM
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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well insteresting that your doing this.. i have 2 h23 blocks with spun main bearings.. i bought a 99 h22 crank and i am going to have the mains of the h23 block bored out to 55mm, now im not sure if it has been done, but when i was looking i think there was enough room, but nobody will be sure until its tried.

the way to think about it is: is there enough room on both sides of the main to take out 2.5mm of material, now i haven't really checked, but i know honda mains are fairly beefy and im prett sure that you can bore it out to 55mm, atleast thats what im plaining to do.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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I was going to try this but since I already have a good H22 and H23 swap....the spare H23 block with spun bearing will just sit in my basement just in case I ever need it. The idea sounds like the way you do it, but I have yet to see, or hear anyone do it.

I think the best thing to try is getting oversized ACL bearings and get a 92-96 H22 or H23 crank and be done with it.

It just isn't worth my time or money to try. I am pretty much done modding PWD cars anyway.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelittlelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well insteresting that your doing this.. i have 2 h23 blocks with spun main bearings.. i bought a 99 h22 crank and i am going to have the mains of the h23 block bored out to 55mm, now im not sure if it has been done, but when i was looking i think there was enough room, but nobody will be sure until its tried.

the way to think about it is: is there enough room on both sides of the main to take out 2.5mm of material, now i haven't really checked, but i know honda mains are fairly beefy and im prett sure that you can bore it out to 55mm, atleast thats what im plaining to do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah in theroy it should work, I was wondering if anyone has actually tried it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I think the best thing to try is getting oversized ACL bearings and get a 92-96 H22 or H23 crank and be done with it.
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they are oversized on the inside diamiter for reground cranks.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Ask Satan... I think he is running a similar setup. He said the bigger journals are better.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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Yeah I've tried to tell as many people as possible about the 98+ being 55mm.

Anyways I put the caps side by side and they are indeed the same height so theoretically you could line bore the 97 and try to make it work. I was going to do that to my wrecked h23VTEC block but there was a ton of heat damage so we were worried about it all working out and just went straight h22a4 instead.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah I've tried to tell as many people as possible about the 98+ being 55mm.

Anyways I put the caps side by side and they are indeed the same height so theoretically you could line bore the 97 and try to make it work. I was going to do that to my wrecked h23VTEC block but there was a ton of heat damage so we were worried about it all working out and just went straight h22a4 instead.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah after i settle down with the f22/vtec boosted project, im going to find a shop local to me that i can trust to machine the mains for me, i will just go right to the honda factory specs for the h22a4 98+ and then buy some oem honda bearings.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 06:11 AM
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What ae the advantages of larger mains with thicker bearings?
Higher revving capabilities?
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Well i would guess that it would be less likely to spin with more surface area for oil and safer/cooler/more reliable.
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