So, I decided to turbo my SOHC. My Nitrous is still in the car, Just not hooked up anymore. CRX-po is this weekend. I'm hoping on putting my car on the dyno by this friday. I was thinking if I can make atleast 170-180whp I can do a high 12. Stock D16Y8. I am also thinking about getting alittle crazy on the Single and just slapping the nitrous in. Put a 40shot on the single and see what it can or can not do. If it blows, It blows, I still have a built B18A here. I can't wait until it runs. I did a few test runs already and it feels like it pulls pretty hard. But not as hard as my nitrous. 4lbs right now. Planning on 10lbs on friday. What do you guys think?

 

I wouldn't start with 10 pounds right away. Start with about 6-7 psi, and then if you have somethign to adjust the fuel map with and timing and everything iwould slowly start to crank it up. I say this because you should be worried about detonation at 10 lbs of boost.

Also i wouldn't suggest spraying the nitrous directly into the charge pipe, i would suggest spraying the nitrous on your Intercooler. This seems to be the safest way to run nitrous with a Turbo Setup.

Hope some of this info helped.

 

Spraying in my Intercooler? Whats the point of that? The only thing it would do is cool off the air that passes by. You wouldn't be running nitrous if you did that.

I'm not starting 10lbs right away. I'm at 4lbs right now. Honestly I can careless if the motor blows. My B18A hold 25lbs no problems. I'm still getting the hand me downs from my boyfriend.

 

Soraying your intercooler is the most beneficial way i have seen to run nitrous on a Turbo setup.

What does nitrous do anyway? Cools down the air that goes into the Intak Manifold, Colder air=better air. So by spraying your intercooler you are spraying more air than if you did in your TB or chrage piping.

My friends set-up dynoed at 46x hp then sprayed his IC and shot up to 486 i believe. It is really simple to do and gives you good gains.

 

2 things here.

1st, if you didnt care about the motor blowing, why the question?..just do it.

2nd, if you run NOS and turbo, then yes, NOS is mainly used to cool the air while turbo spools the air in....so I agree with Kshy....heat is an engines enemy.

 

NAAAWWWWSSSS and TURBO.

 

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yes this post was pertaining to a Turbo setup where the person intended to keep their NOS.

Why did you have to post something so stupid and irrelevant?

 

I have seen where people run the nitrous through the engine as well as the turbo. They use the NOS during launch so they can make up for the spool time on the turbo.

Other than that, I dont' see the benefit on running it through the engine at all. Fast and Furrious shows it being used during full boost. Hahahaa! Why their motors don't explode is beyond me unless they have some 130+ octane fuel with their neons, SR20-det engines, and motec exhaust.

 

Agreed, I wanted to use nitrous at take off due to the reason I don't build up enough boost yet. I also don't have a 2 step either. Last week I put my car on the dyno. 187Whp and 153-156wtorque at 9lbs of boost.. I could've ran a 12. But my 3rd gear syncros is gone so my best et was 13.8 vs my 150whp with 130torque when I had a 60shot of nitrous running 13.2's and 13.3's all night long for one year. I should have a new tranny in a few days. I'll see it how goes then.

 

im not quite sure if you guys know exaclty what nitrous does, or how it works..

to me, its completely usless on a turbo car.. it can't be done. the nitrous kit, in other words a source of "fuel" can't be fully utilliezed. its a fuel. its 2 part oxegyn, and 1 part nitrougen. a killer source of air. when using nitrous you have to add fuel.. weither or not a "dry" kit, with a vac. sol. on the FPR like the vortech FMU to add more fuel, or a single stage wet kit, where you mix them together.. its a "FUEL". now on engines with nitrous, its sucking air.. which is a direct shot at the cylnder.

now.. my problem with nitrous on a turbo car.. it won't go directly into the engine.. its just going to bounce around the inatake manifold, and wait to be pushed into the engine. oh, and dont' get me started on tunning. you'll never get your fuels down right.

however.. spraying a mist of nitrous on the intercool would get that IC nice and crisp. however N20 isn't the cheapest thing in the world.. i would think about looking into some other types of gasses to try?..

hope i helped out alittle.. N20 is for NA cars.. tubro's are a total diff. story.. but nitrous does help cool down the IC.. just doens't show as much results as a NA motor on nitrous.. but everything does count in the long run.

 

Talk about calling the kettle black...

Most of you damn people need to lay off the smack, and pick up a book once in a while. Seriously.

Nitrous is a good way to make power because it is chemically more oxygenated than the air that an engine would normally injest. Nitrous oxide is NOT a fuel, and is NOT flammable, unless there is other fuel present. That is why a full nitrous bottle can be shipped, or at least could be, until all this bombing **** started happening. Nitrous oxide is a combustion promoter.

FACT: The air that we breathe is about 21-percent oxygen. Nitrous oxide contains 36-percent oxygen by weight.

And another factoid for you: If you were to QUIT using the atmosphere, and hook an engine to a nitrous container at ambient temperatures, at 14.7 PSI, which is ambient air pressure at sea level, your car would make 50% more horsepower. That is without the cooling effects, without anything but the change in the content of oxygen injested.


Running nitrous on a turbo is just as beneficial IF NOT MORESO than running nitrous on a N/A car. Yes, it helps cool the intake charge, but the benefits don't stop there. if you are running a wet kit, you can add air AND fuel without worrying about maxing out your injectors, you just need to make sure your fuel system is up to the supply needs of the engine and the nitrous kit without losing pressure. I've seen dyno's of a 30 shot in a turbo setup before the intercooler make over 100 horsepower. ON THE DYNO, people.

PLEASE, only post about what you KNOW, not what you think or have heard.

 

nitrous is a source of fuel.. fuel.. might run you lean, but it will still act like a fuel.

what are the 3 things needed for a fire? compression, and fuel, and spark.

nitrous is half of the fuel. it will make your engine lean, and in most cases is why nitrous is sooo dangerous.

on dry kits.. you dont' just inject nitrous alone.. they have a press sol. that acts just like a FMU. wet kits is just that.. gasoline, and nitrous together.. a FUEL.

ive burned many engines on nitrous.. i know how it works.. and your right.. its not a flamable gas.. its not a fuel alone.. "unless other fuel is present" thank you.

and i just can't grasp the fact of a nitrous kit being uses on a turbo setup, as you would for a NA... the IC cooler.. yes, but im not sure if your blessing the concept of a single fogger into the intake system. i can't see a pressurized system (boost) running nitrous and the fuel not sticking to the manifold, and being able to tune it.

correct me if im wrong.. but ide love to see a comeplete single stage fogger kit on a turbo car, and respectable dyno and sniffer results.

its more practacal to stick to N20 fogger injection on NA's, and IC coolers on turbos.. just my thoughts.

 

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Running nitrous on a turbo is just as beneficial IF NOT MORESO than running nitrous on a N/A car. Yes, it helps cool the intake charge, but the benefits don't stop there. if you are running a wet kit, you can add air AND fuel without worrying about maxing out your injectors, you just need to make sure your fuel system is up to the supply needs of the engine and the nitrous kit without losing pressure. I've seen dyno's of a 30 shot in a turbo setup before the intercooler make over 100 horsepower. ON THE DYNO, people.

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Thanks SIR Kid. I have seen the same results from "spraying" the intercooler with a very small amout of Nitrous.

You can easily gain 50-100 whp from spraying your intercooler. This is why Mitsubishi put the Water Nozzle in front of the intercooler on the Lancer Evo.

 

1. Think about that. OXYGEN makes an engine run lean, not fuel. Being lean is by definition a SHORTAGE of fuel during combustion.


2. WRONG. Compressed Oxygen, fuel, and spark. Try compressing Carbon Dioxide, and see how your engine runs.

3. See #1

4. Finally, you're showing some sense.

5. And again, you're starting to get it.

6. The definition of boost on a supercharged or turbocharged car is an excess of air in the intake stream. It means MORE air is being forced into the engine. More air + MORE nitrous = more power. It's not that hard, you're just thinking too much.

7. Directly from the horses mouth.... http://www.nosnitrous.com (Nitrous Oxide Systems Website)

Q: How does nitrous work?
A: Nitrous oxide is made up of 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen (36% oxygen by weight). During the combustion process in an engine, at about 572 degrees F, nitrous breaks down and releases oxygen. This extra oxygen creates additional power by allowing more fuel to be burned. Nitrogen acts to buffer, or dampen the increased cylinder pressures helping to control the combustion process. Nitrous also has a tremendous "intercooling" effect by reducing intake charge temperatures by 60 to 75 degrees F.

Q: Is nitrous oxide flammable?
A: No. Nitrous Oxide by itself is non-flammable. However, the oxygen present in nitrous oxide causes combustion of fuel to take place more rapidly.

Q: Are there benefits to using nitrous with turbo or super-charger applications?
A: Absolutely! In turbo applications, turbo lag is completely eliminated with the addition of a nitrous system. In addition, both turbo and superchargers compress the incoming air, thus heating it. With the injection of nitrous, a tremendous intercooling effect reduces intake charge temperatures by 75 degrees or more. Boost is usually increased as well, adding to even more power.

 

^^ good job, its about time someone set the misconceptions caused by an overdose of 2fast2fiction.

from me

 

My thread got jacked. :-( I just picked up my new tranny yesterday. Time to wrench. Imma hook up my nitrous anyways. Just to see how it goes. If it doesn't work well I'll take it off. No biggie.

 

instaed of spending money on hte nitrous cause it costs so much freakin money to keep getting the bottle filled, get the co2 to cool down the intercooler. i hear it works great.