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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Default 1000+HP HONDA I-4 only! On Gasonline- no alch. I want to know stats and figures! Who, what, when, wh

Well, I tried searching numerous times for such a post, and had nothing really to return. I know putting 1000 HP to the ground is NOT POSSIBLE in any FWD stance. But 1000hp is simply one thing: bragging rights... I know I could answer my own question when I ask- what does it take to make 1000+hp from a HONDA inline-4. (b18, b16, h22). But I want to know who made this power, when and HOW! Intellegent contributions and opinions to this thread would be greatly appreciated

Heres my reccomendation:
Block: b18 maybe even a dartb18 for tehe added cooling channels
Darton sleeved to 85mm
Pauter custom length long Rods (larger ratio)
CP pistons 10:1
Decked block (if applicable) thats why the long rods
Balance and blueprinted of course.
Eagle crank? Or maybe gsr? im not too sure

Moroso dry sump oiling system (with accumulator)
Fludyne race radiator, with high flow external pump

Head: b18c1
Full p&P
Full ferrera valvetrain
Stock bore on intake valves maybe 2mm over bore on exhaust side with custom black nitrade treated valves
Cams: hmm.. Skunk stage 2, or GSR

Fuel: c16
BG fuel pump (anything that flows over 800gph)
BG 40psi adj. FPR
10AN lines from pump to fuel rail
1500cc injectors

Engine Mang: fast, or aem (no more $$ for haltech after all the work haha)

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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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all that stuff you have listed wont get you anything near 1000whp. probably not even 220whp.

IF there is such thing as a 1000whp inline 4 cylinder HONDA engine it would deffinatly be big bore. big port job, lots of custom parts and a big *** turbo pumping huge boost.

even then it would probably be one of those engine's that get torn apart evey pull to redline.


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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Yah- maybe your right... With the setup i listed I forgot to mention the TURBO!! A big T-70 is what I had in mind
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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or t-88
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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mucho turbo lag with those... might as include some nitrous into the plans to spool it too
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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sounds like my set up
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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yeah mine to??
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22 civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like my set up </TD></TR></TABLE>heheheh! Funny ****.
But If your serious I am scared

Any more info on who has 1000hp and on what???

I think kenny tran's motor made 1200hp- they were testing the limits of the setup
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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Well everything you listed is more on the idea of specific parts and brands; you need to be worrying more about engine geometry and sizes.

Pretty much it has to be a turbo motor. It needs to be the biggest displacement you can pull....reliability will NOT be a factor.

The main concern about displacement is that it has to be a turbo motor. If you bore it out too much, the cylinders may egg at the very high boost levels.

Now to the valvetrain: in order to spool a big enough turbo, you're gonna have to rev very high. In this case, not only is a full valvetrain upgrade in order, but you are gonna have to get a very wild cam custom ground. Crower will be your best bet; something w/ very high lift and relatively low duration.

These are just a few thoughts. It's gonna take a LOOOT of money to make a 4 cylinder make 1000HP, and even then it's not gonna hold together for too long.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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you sound like you're about 14 when you make a topic like this. lol.

i don't think that the little bit of displacement that you can gain with "shelf" parts will help much... the most important thing will be the induction. turbo would be the way to go, either that or somebody stick an 8-71 on top of a honda motor!! just kidding.

I guess the B series would probably be a good platform on account of the availability of aftermarket blocks, cranks, and the such... of course, many of these parts will not be off-the-shelf...

maybe i'm brainwashed by larry widmer, but i bet if you dropped off the money at Endyn... they could build you 1000hp Honda engine that probably wouldn't even be all that unreliable. They seem to have the parts and the skills.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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i would prefer the h22a because displacement is very important to get more exhaust gases to spool the turbo. And yep, it'll have to be rev happy to allow the turbo to reach efficiency.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by the kid 86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you sound like you're about 14 when you make a topic like this. lol</TD></TR></TABLE> Thanks Im 20... But arent you "the kid" here?!? So no one has any specifics on who has done this and on what. Im suprised in you guys! Thanks ludeykrus for the contribution. Lets start with the t88 mention. What type of work can we go from there, etc.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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im bored so

deckplate b18c block with 84mm bore 9.5:1 compression 92mm stroke, custom beefy rods, dry sump setup

complete port and polish job on a b18c head, oversized valves (cooling) stiffer valve train with custom grind cams

fully tubular exhaust manifold strapped to a ballbearing t78 turbo 4 inch down pipe 1600cc injectors, full motec engine management, NO intercooler, or a water to air setup, (shortest pipes to the manifold possible) 150 shots of nitrous direct port, for cooling the intake charge and spooling,

throw that in a 88 hatch with 26 or bigger slicks.....
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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pretty much same but def not no where near 1000 hp maybe 650 at about 30 pds
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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lol...how about a stroked and bored k24 block with a k20a head with a similar turbo setup
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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you want 1000hp? Call up VT Compitition Engine Devlopment here in Lansing, they will hook you up if you have the $$$, i'm not sure if they sold the 700hp 2.0L they build for honda tuning
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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i saw an integra make 4000hp one time...it was a custom made block though 4.6L haha...yeah a bored out h22 would be your best chance...
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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what about a twin turbo nsx motor? Might hit 1000 with enough performance parts?
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by XLR8 GS-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Thanks Im 20... But arent you "the kid" here?!? So no one has any specifics on who has done this and on what. Im suprised in you guys! Thanks ludeykrus for the contribution. Lets start with the t88 mention. What type of work can we go from there, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sorry but there are better turbos than the T88 Gardella ran a Y2K last year (I believe), not sure about the HP/TQ he produced but the turbo would suffice for what you need.
As for a motor to run it with, a big bore H22 would be the way to go. The power can be made, it's just getting it to the ground that's the problem Unless your buddies with Chris Rado or independently wealthy, that motor would be a waste
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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C32b engine sequential turbo setup for fast spooling, Custom made block(lets face it; it would need to be rock solid material used!)Custom everthing else 6 aftermarket ignition coils to replace the stock ones, Air to Water cooling system with inline icebox. Increased displacement.

That should just about do it.

as for doing it on an I4, You would need some VERY special components and custom block.

If you have the $$$ you can do it, but thats a very darkholetoblow your money down!
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silversupragirl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Unless your buddies with Chris Rado or independently wealthy, that motor would be a waste </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hahahaha ohhh so true!!
Which motor is the C32b? Im not familiar with that deck... On a side note, I don't really plan on doing this setup or anything, I just think its fun to talk about POWER BABY!
The Y2K turbo- I heard of that monster.. Its a turbonetics, correct? Im pretty sure that their celica ran two of them nowonder they were first for 200+mph!

-Ken
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by XLR8 GS-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Hahahaha ohhh so true!!
Which motor is the C32b? Im not familiar with that deck... On a side note, I don't really plan on doing this setup or anything, I just think its fun to talk about POWER BABY!
The Y2K turbo- I heard of that monster.. Its a turbonetics, correct? Im pretty sure that their celica ran two of them nowonder they were first for 200+mph!

-Ken</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep Y2K=Turbonetics But i'm not sure the Scranton Celica was running a dual Y2K set-up, maybe though *shrugs*. I believe the C32B is the NSX motor, but I could be wrong?
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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i will fly out to where ever to watch it dyno...redstripe hooray beer
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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There is so much that goes into making 1000whp Inline4. I know of only 1 person doing it, Garry Gardela. There is alot of WORK and custom stuff than whats out there to make you get 1000whp. The only people that I know of going beyond what everyone else is doing is Chris Rado and Garry Gardela.

BTW, a S2k turbo uses a T88 compressor....


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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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yup c32b is the new nsx motor.
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