Hf manifold with external wastegate?
by the time you jimmy up something that probably wont work, you should have just bought a log style mani. its not easy to weld cast.
lovefab- $300
spoolinperformance ~$230 i think
check around and do it right the first time.
lovefab- $300
spoolinperformance ~$230 i think
check around and do it right the first time.
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Yeah, I normally follow that rule "do it right the first time".
I have a used turbo, HF manifold, and the adaptor plate already. I bought them all through different sources. I bought the turbo knowing it didn't have the actuator for the internal wastegate so I'm now looking at options. I either get the actuator or I get a log with an external. The log alone costs more than I want to spend so I am down figureing out what else I can do. From your response it would seem that I will end up getting an actuator.
I have a used turbo, HF manifold, and the adaptor plate already. I bought them all through different sources. I bought the turbo knowing it didn't have the actuator for the internal wastegate so I'm now looking at options. I either get the actuator or I get a log with an external. The log alone costs more than I want to spend so I am down figureing out what else I can do. From your response it would seem that I will end up getting an actuator.
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Weld a flange on to the top of the hf manifold where the factory o2 sensor is now.. Put an external wastegate on there..
Weld a flange on to the top of the hf manifold where the factory o2 sensor is now.. Put an external wastegate on there..
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Weld a flange on to the top of the hf manifold where the factory o2 sensor is now.. Put an external wastegate on there..</TD></TR></TABLE>
not big enough, not easy to weld cast, as stated before. overal, not worth the investment.
Weld a flange on to the top of the hf manifold where the factory o2 sensor is now.. Put an external wastegate on there..</TD></TR></TABLE>
not big enough, not easy to weld cast, as stated before. overal, not worth the investment.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikecivichb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is any type of pressure line supposed go onto that nipple? thanks
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Yes. That's the diaphram actuator I was talking about. The metal rod sticking out of it actuates a lever on the wastegate flap and makes it open when there is enough boost.
Yes. That's the diaphram actuator I was talking about. The metal rod sticking out of it actuates a lever on the wastegate flap and makes it open when there is enough boost.
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not big enough, not easy to weld cast, as stated before. overal, not worth the investment.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know its not easy to weld cast and may not be worth it.. The are at the top is big enough to put a flange on if you remove the factory o2 sensor there..
not big enough, not easy to weld cast, as stated before. overal, not worth the investment.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know its not easy to weld cast and may not be worth it.. The are at the top is big enough to put a flange on if you remove the factory o2 sensor there..
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I know its not easy to weld cast and may not be worth it.. The are at the top is big enough to put a flange on if you remove the factory o2 sensor there..</TD></TR></TABLE>
1. it is not big enough.
2. even if it was how are you going to get it on there, JBweld? haha
I know its not easy to weld cast and may not be worth it.. The are at the top is big enough to put a flange on if you remove the factory o2 sensor there..</TD></TR></TABLE>
1. it is not big enough.
2. even if it was how are you going to get it on there, JBweld? haha
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1. it is not big enough.
2. even if it was how are you going to get it on there, JBweld? haha</TD></TR></TABLE>
Seems we disagree on this one.. I wouldnt jbweld it but im pretty sure it can be welded by other mean.. And I think that is it big enough, There is a pretty good area there and I have put a tial 35mm wastegate flange on top of the hf manifold that I have and there is room for it..
1. it is not big enough.
2. even if it was how are you going to get it on there, JBweld? haha</TD></TR></TABLE>
Seems we disagree on this one.. I wouldnt jbweld it but im pretty sure it can be welded by other mean.. And I think that is it big enough, There is a pretty good area there and I have put a tial 35mm wastegate flange on top of the hf manifold that I have and there is room for it..
A decent welder can definitely weld cast. Especially if it's not a "weight bearing". IMO, there is room to put it on a HF manifold. And also (IMO) it would be a complete waste of perfectly good welding rod. Just slap a oem diaphragm on the internal WG and be done with it.
Small rant: People debate the merits of internal vs. external WG's quite a bit around here. Cracks me up since 99% of us will probably never see even 12 psi anyway.
Small rant: People debate the merits of internal vs. external WG's quite a bit around here. Cracks me up since 99% of us will probably never see even 12 psi anyway.
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Seems we disagree on this one.. I wouldnt jbweld it but im pretty sure it can be welded by other mean..</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol
i was kidding about the jbweld.
yes a GOOD welder can weld cast. But going through the extent of finding someone who will/can and preping the manifold for the welds..... you might as well just spend $200-250.
your right we do dissagree on this, so i will leave it at this.
IMO there is no reason to attemp this.
Seems we disagree on this one.. I wouldnt jbweld it but im pretty sure it can be welded by other mean..</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol
i was kidding about the jbweld.
yes a GOOD welder can weld cast. But going through the extent of finding someone who will/can and preping the manifold for the welds..... you might as well just spend $200-250.
your right we do dissagree on this, so i will leave it at this.
IMO there is no reason to attemp this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an idea if you wanna keep the hf manifold. that ***** pretty thick huh? how about you drill a hole about 40-42 mm in diameter (somewhere where you would want to put the wg) then tap it. then go get some threaded steel pipe (35 mm ID and 1/2''- 1'' in length) weld a wg flange on the other end of that and then screw the contraption into your threaded hole on the hf mani. and i guess it wouldnt hurt to put some jb weld on those threads either just to keep it in place. its worth a shot. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats actually a great idea.. I might even try this on my hf manifold..
Thats actually a great idea.. I might even try this on my hf manifold..
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