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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 05:50 AM
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Ok, i searched, but i didnt find what i really need

I have a jdm h22, with skunks cams and gears. I just installed my H23 manual tensioner, everyhing went smooth except re-timing the motor.
Now the crank timing is self explanitory, the timing mark on the block and crank cog lines up. But what about the cam gears?? I've tried to set the timing for the cam gears with the timing marks pointing straight up, but i still have my doubts that they are right, because the car isnt running right at ALL. and i think i hear moving air through the intake manifold when i turn the crank which tells me that timing is WAY off. haha

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Is there a easy way to make sure the cam gears are at TDC??
Like i was reading that you can put a small punch through a service hole in the 1st bearing hole to lock it in TDC, but i dont see it. And is straight up in realation to the motor, or stragiht up in no realation to the motor right?

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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 06:50 AM
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Ok, so im positive my timing is correct now, but the car seems to hit a rev limiter at 1500
any ideas?
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeHatchH22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like i was reading that you can put a small punch through a service hole in the 1st bearing hole to lock it in TDC, but i dont see it. And is straight up in realation to the motor, or stragiht up in no realation to the motor right?

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Yes look directly behind the cam gears. You will see a whole in the two bearing caps closest to the cam gears. Stick a screw driver or allen wrench in there and your gears are at tdc.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhazedSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes look directly behind the cam gears. You will see a whole in the two bearing caps closest to the cam gears. Stick a screw driver or allen wrench in there and your gears are at tdc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The H22 doesn't have them. I wish I knew why.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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do you have to take the rocker cover off?
And whats up with this Not revving up problem now? it might be electrical? i just had the motor out and i put it in myself. I marked all the wiring, but the marker wore off so i just did what i remembered.
there are 2 hook ups off the fuel injectors sections, one is IACV the other is ????
Also, there is a harness near the IAT sensor, and i dont know where it goes
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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simple to find out if ur engine is on tdc. take #1 piston spark plug out and put a long barbq stiick in the hole and slowly turn the crank pulley counter clock wise while watching the stick go up. once you do this check if your flywheel timing mark and cam gear matches.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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If the marks on the camgears and the crank are pointing straight up, your timming should be set. I dont see why your having problems. What have you done with the TDC/CKP sensor? Also are you using your balancer shafts or no?
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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If he just replaced the entire engine, it could be any one of a hundred things causing a problem. If there are wiring harnesses not plugged in, that would probably be a good place to start.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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Im thinking its not cam/crank timming related, because if your timming were to be off and you were to crank it up, you would be replacing that head again. It has to do with something else. Like i said, check your TDC sensor and go from there.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daemione &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The H22 doesn't have them. I wish I knew why.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes they do. there is one little hole in each one of the cam holders. i'm talkin about the 1 piece holder that runs along the length of the head. u can stick a punch in those holes (1 for intake, 1 for exhaust) and then into the cam.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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yes they do. there is one little hole in each one of the cam holders. i'm talkin about the 1 piece holder that runs along the length of the head. u can stick a punch in those holes (1 for intake, 1 for exhaust) and then into the cam.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is this something that's only on the earlier H22's because I can't see them anywhere.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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OK, so what would be wrong with me TDC sensor?? and im sure the timing is correct, so it has to be something else.
Does anyone have a wiring harness schematic?
I'm gonna go over it more to see if i can find something, but ill check all the sensors again
BTW im not running balance shafts
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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On the 97+ H22, I guarantee those punch TDC cam holes don't exist.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daemione &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On the 97+ H22, I guarantee those punch TDC cam holes don't exist.</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh i thought we were talking about A1's. i dont know about 97+. A1's do have them though.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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I doubled checked something.
On PreludeOnline there's a thread by boxerpower where he changed the cam seal in his 98 SH. He has this picture in there.

If you look above the lobes for cylinder #2 you can see the holes that were mentioned. Plus I just looked at my soon to be installed Crower cams and they actually DO have a hole in each cam that looks like it's supposed to line up with those holes in the cam holder plate. Craziness huh?
As for the holes in the end caps, I don't know anything about those.
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