My car is a 99 honda civic si lowered on a set of eibach pro kits, and kyb agx.

I am trying to find out which brands produce an adjustable a arm, strait up replacement for the stock a arm, some other companies make an attachment or some other deal, But I believe I read in a magazine last month of a kit that makes your a arm basically like an adjustable pillow mount on other cars.

I have done a search on different types of camber kits and instead ended up getting a great deal of decent information on camber adjustment and so so.

So anyways lemme skip pass the bs introduction and get to my point. I read this thread concerning camber kits https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=44833 and I really didnt see anything about the progress kit, some recommended the k mac but I read on clubsi that the k mac has been known to slip out of adjustment, so **** that.

this thread - https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=61926

explains some pretty whacky **** itself, and is very interesting.

So in light to save your car from uber super duper camber wear for daily driving if you modify your rear camber on a lower car above 1.75 degrees then your toe will be affected. WTF!!! and if thats the case is your rear toe as easily adjustable as your front toe on a civic.

here is a picture of the progress camber kit, and in those threads there is a picture of the k mac. The ingalls as far as I remember has an adjustable bushing for caster and camber...


I dont need uber super duper adjustability.

I just want to make all of my camber and toe stock speck so i dont kill my tires.

My rear camber is at 2 degrees and my front camber is at 2.12 degress... and my pocket is burning at 100 degress from tires man...

somebody please describe a brand name of a camber kit, include a picture of it, and include any pictures you have, installation, problems and so and such with the suspension. I would greatly appreciate it.

 

Now this is the EDIT *KING DISTRIBUTED NON MANUFACTURED* EDIT camber kit, a arms, only problem is right away I noticed the srr on the a arm... and ssr is a completely different suspension products company, and if thats the case how do i get my hands on srr products without having to pay the king motorsports price.


[Modified by 137, 3:59 PM 10/16/2001]

 

Those are NOT Mugen arms, they are made by King. They utilize modified factory a-arms with specially made slider plates. And by the way, "SR-R" is printed on at least one of the factory arms -- possibly the one that goes on the right?

 

thats possibly so, but mugen king I get them both mixed up cause all of thier **** is expensive...

I asked Civic Ferio his opinion on this post and he lead me to
http://www.specprod.com/

which basically was mentioned in one of the earlier posts here...
And they have the widest option availible... Not that I need that much adjustability in the front but the rear kit will cost around 40-80 dollars depending if I go with the fully adjustable knuckle or the shimmable knuckle... I will most likely go with the adjustable.

Now for the front there is a managerie of options, but being I just need the minimal amount of adjustment and not total control this kit right here is ****** perfect >>> link to less hassle kit

While they have this complimentary bad *** kit that totally slaps the **** off the king kit.

customizable wise >> Special Colored adjustable a arm forks with a presise mesuring guide on them
you can use your stock ball joint mount for that or you can use this fully adjustable mount they sell as well for a whopping 128 dollars. Adjustable Ball Mount

So I pretty much have ended my quest but that is no reason to end this post... please everyone give insight to what you think is best, pictures and all.

And thank you for your time and insight.

 

Did you look at the Skunk 2 arms? Very similar to the King arms. If you don't need too much adjustability, you could go with the Progress kit. Less moving parts to have to worry about. If it moves, you need to check it.
I took a look at the install pics for that adjustable ball joint. It really raises the arm up. I bet there will be some fender/a-arm problems with a low car.


[Modified by civicrr, 10:06 PM 10/15/2001]

 

Hmm.. you seem to not understand the positives of the King kit and the kit that "slaps the **** off the king kit."

The King kit is a RACE setup that is made to induce additional negative camber (up to and beyond -4 degrees), as well as withstand the rigors of track use. Whereas the *ultimate* kit you posted is made for inducing additional positive camber. So yes, you might as well purchase a street kit for your application. Just remember, you get what you pay for.

Being the self-proclaimed "God of the Verbal Bitchslap", I would have thought that you would have come to the table more prepared.

 

SRR is a company base in Taiwan and you can get that kit for 1/2 the price of what Kings is selling now in HK or Taiwan...this is not very honest because some ppls might think they are mugen when check on thier web page. I bought the new shunk camber kit for around 200 a pair and they provide +/-3 degree ajustment. I run -3 camber with 225 hoosiers in front and they work very well.

 

What the **** are you talking about? I just went out to my garage and looked at the stock ITR a-arms on my shelf, they say "SR-R". So UNLESS Honda is using these Taiwanese a-arms on their cars from the factory, what you have said is complete bullshit.

This is how misinformation gets started.

 

Also, HOW does King try to deceive people by making them think the a-arms are made by Mugen. The a-arms are linked to the "KING" PRODUCT section!

I don't mean to sound like a King/Mugen cheerleader, but my god people, your level of ignorance has reached an all time high.

 

sorry I might got mixed up with the company call SRR which got the same exact (look and design) as the pic above. I'm not trying to argue with you and just try to help him out so there is no need to curse all over and bustin my ***** like I killed your whole family...


[Modified by b18cturbo, 11:09 PM 10/15/2001]

 

Heh. Ok

 

For the rear, I like the Home Depot method for putting camber more positive. Just buy some washers and cram'em between the chassis and the upper control arm (the diagonal one, what is it called?). If you are really lowered, you may need longer bolts as well for more washers. I know this is a **** poor explanation, just go look behind you rear wheels - you will see a suspension arm that goes from the spindley-doohickey up and forwards to the chassis-majig. Sure, it ain't purty and it ain't JDM-tastic, but it works for most non-competitive lowering type-things.

 

I might have one of the progress kits lying around somewhere (I'll have to dig it up). If you want it, I'll trade ya for your original upper control arm mounts.

--Karl, who will dig around in the garage tonight and see if he can find this stuff...

 

yeah I like how half of the belts on the engine are made by honda too... jackass... remember not every company manufactures every single little part on thier cars guy. ARE THE BRAKE PADS HONDA?

didnt think so. Wisen up a tad, SRR is a company who manufactures suspension parts, and like it or not maybe it is totally coincidence that the "king who sells mugen parts kit" so everyone will assume it has to do something with mugen, who also doesnt wholy manufactures all of thier parts" might of mistook it for a mugen item being king is a distributor or mugen product.

Nobody has a picture of a kit made by srr so hold your underwear before you start bashing people, thank you for your positive advice but save your negative attitude for the kills forum ok "cheerleader" I didnt ask you to start **** in here or call people ignorant, I was just pointing out a possibility to save me 200 bucks from buying something that king/mugen is just importing to the states and throwing a bullshit price on.

thank you for your time andrew.

 

also could you possibly get your hands on some pics and links to the srr kit, or a page that sells srr suspension product.

 

After all **** Andrew went through w/ you, you still don't get it. SRR does not make racing suspension products. The Skunk2 and the King adjustable a-arms are modified versions of the OEM a-arms. Same goes for the JDM Vision arms.

Let me know if you need me to explain it any further...maybe I can come up w/ a drawing that is simple enough for you to understand.



[Modified by 98LSTypeR, 5:08 PM 10/16/2001]

 

here is the link to SRR....http://www.srr.com.tw/index.html, but I can't find their front camber kit in their page any more, only the rear. here is a pic that I downloaded a while ago to compare with the skunk2 kit....



The skunk and the SRR front kit basically got the same design besides the skunk2 camber kit is coated red.


[Modified by b18cturbo, 5:46 PM 10/16/2001]

 

SRR= Super Road Racing Co. Ltd.

 

Those rear camber adjusters look exactly the the ones from SS Works. I know SS Works manufactures their own kits. But the factory logo and name are different from the one stamped on the OEM a-arms. Specifically there is no hyphen in the name like on the Honda OEM arms. I think we are dealing w/ two different companies here.

Go look at King's rear camber adjusters. They look different from the SRR adjusters and I'm not talking about color.




[Modified by 98LSTypeR, 5:16 PM 10/16/2001]

 

I agree that the SR-R stamp has nothing to do with SRR. Can you imagine a multi-billion dollar company like Honda going to a tiny Taiwanese racing/tuner company to make A-arms by the millions for Integras and Civics?

 

And a couple of more posts down we have righteousness, and not a cheap cop out for not having a proper explination, you may get off your soapbox mr. correct.




[Modified by 137, 7:09 PM 10/16/2001]

 

Looks like Spoon sports might have something available in the near future.....

This is from the Spoon sports website (A&J Racing, Vancouver Canada)

 

eek that looks skary. not scary but skary.

 

137 - It's Hondaman from CSi. Pat asked me to come over here and give you my views.

Unfortunately there's really no great camber kit out there. Some are geared toward racing,l some are geared toward street use, and some are just there. I'm going to lay out which one's are available (most of which have been talked about already) and what my views are on each of them.

Ingals This is a direct front upper a-arm swap that can be used to correct camber from a lowered vehicle. Typical complaints with this kit is that it's typically noisy. In my experience, if you lubricate the kit with a good moly lube you can go up to a year without having to relubricate. Most people use crappier lubes like bearing grease, WD-40, etc... that don't last as long. The kit overall is of good quality and installation is a breeze.

Progress This kit has grown in popularity lately as more and more people get into the scene and here about the noise problems with the Ingalls kit. Unforutately the Progress kit is noisy as well so what ever benfit there was is now gone. It also doesn't have a big adjustment to it so you may never get to your desired settings. It appears to be a really good kit though in quality and installation is a breeze.

K-MAC This kit unfortunately has some inherent design problems and should be avoided (as dicussed in link above). Too bad to because there's very few kits that adjust camber and caster.

King modified arms This kit is one more geared to the racers but I've heard of people using it to get back some camber lost due to lowering. Unfortunately it's just too damn expensive.

Skunk 2 This seems to be the best non-race oriented kit out there presently. From what I'm told it will get you to whatever camber settings you want regardless of how low you are. About the only downfall I know of is it's painted red (which would look good on your car).

Speciality Products They have several kits available and their OE style kit will probably suit you the best. They also have a more race oriented one but I've heard that since it's slightly wider then the stock arm by the ball joint it can smack the wheel well when dropped low. Avoid their adjustable ball joint, it has the same problems as the K-Mac.

For rear kits just about anything will work good. The washer trick, as described by Crack Monkey, is effective but not percise. Almost any of the adjustable upper control arms works as well. Actually most people have the best luck with the Ingalls adjustable rear upper control arm. It comes with polyuerathane bushings and if properly lubricated during initial installation it should be worry free for several years.

 

sweet deal... I have more of a problem with toe wear in the front than camber, the rears is what kicks the **** out of my car.