ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM
Thread Starter
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: albuquerque, nm, usa
ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM
Whats up everyone. I drive a 91 Civic Hatch SI with a 89 Integra ZC fully built with a t-3 turbo @ 15 psi of boost. HERE is my question??? Can i loost oil pressure if i dont have a good seal on my dipstick? Or if im running to big of a oil feed line to the turbo? What should the oil pressure be at idle? 10psi??? Please let me know. Thanks
Andy
Feeldaboost
zpops98spydr@aol.com
Andy
Feeldaboost
zpops98spydr@aol.com
Thread Starter
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: albuquerque, nm, usa
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (Mr. S)
25 -30psi sounds kinda high? i think it should be like 15-18psi at idle right?? ill do a leak down test and see i find. Its a new built engine with 200 miles on it???
Junior Member
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 559
Likes: 0
From: Chesapeake, VA, USA
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (MENACE)
I Could only find this which shows the flow rate maybe it could help. Maybe i was wrong about the 8 psi i cant seem to find were i saw it.
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,157
Likes: 2
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (MENACE)
A man i'm thinking of running a t3 on my z6. How do you like the setup?
And when you say fully built what do you mean?
And one More thing, what type of engine management are you using?
And when you say fully built what do you mean?
And one More thing, what type of engine management are you using?
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,834
Likes: 1
From: OH
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (Mr. S)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. S »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">10 psi is too low. I would say 25-30 at idle. Sounds like a problem if this is your situation. Do a leakdown test.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong buddy
By the Chiltons manual , ALL DATA, Haynes, and many online resources we know the following oil pressure for most Honda B and D motors...
10 psi @ idle (750 rpms)
50 psi @ 3000 rpms
from experience.. if u get less than 10 psi on idle... check the oil , change it, run a magnet thru it and see if theres any metal dust or particles.. or if ur oil pump is clogged, or u will spun a bearing and trow a rod!!! done it already
Wrong buddy
By the Chiltons manual , ALL DATA, Haynes, and many online resources we know the following oil pressure for most Honda B and D motors...
10 psi @ idle (750 rpms)
50 psi @ 3000 rpms
from experience.. if u get less than 10 psi on idle... check the oil , change it, run a magnet thru it and see if theres any metal dust or particles.. or if ur oil pump is clogged, or u will spun a bearing and trow a rod!!! done it already
Trending Topics
Thread Starter
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: albuquerque, nm, usa
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (USDM 4G VTEC)
ok when i say fully built this is what i mean ..............
here is a full List of mods that my buddy matt and i built in my 91 civic hatch. let me know what u think. its a bad *** ride.
>
zdyne gold for fuel managment
> MOTOR: DOHC ZC 1.7L
> Full race port and polish head.
> New unshrouded valves, springs, valve guides, keepers.
> 3 angle valve job.
> New valve guide seals.
> Milled head.
> Garrett t-3 turbo @15psi with .42 compressor and .48 turbine
> Greddy BOV
> CRX ported exhuast manifold.
> Custom mandrel bend down pipe
> Custom saab intercooler@ 234ci
> 91 rebuilt SI transmission with Phantom grip LSD
> Upgraded Driverside Axle (thicker)
> Zdyne Gold ECU Fully programmable (HASPORT)
> 450cc Eclipse gsx Injectors
> 2 bar map sensor
> 255L/hr Holly Fuel pump
> Lightened stock Flywheel (13lbs) Balanced
> Act stage 3 racing clutch / pressure plate balanced
> Custom 2 1/2 in exhaust
> Both Cams regrind for drag racing
> Block ported 0.20 over
> JE pistons (0.20 over) 9:1 compression (balanced)
> JE wrist pins
> Crower rods (balanced)
> Custom bearings
> JE piston rings
> Block gaurd
> Polyurithane motormounts
> Battery relocated into trunk (rearhatch)
> Exterior emergency electrical kill switch on hatch (for drag guidlines)
> crank pullie balanced
> ARP head stud kit
> custom adapter plate from turbo to exhaust manifold.
>
>
> BRAKES:
> Big brake upgrade in front and rear
> FRONT: 94 integra calipers w/11" 92 VW corrado rotors and axis ultimate pads.
> REAR: drum to disc conversion. 94 integra calipers. 11.4 in 89 300zx rotors with EBC GREENSTUFF brake pads.
> 94 integra e-brake cables
> 91 civic ex master cylinder upgrade.
>
> SUSPENTION:
> Front and rear upper strut tower bars.
> 16" Rota Circuit 8 Wheels.
> 205-40-16 Nitto Z-rated tires
> Camber kit with 3 degree adj. and 4 wheel alignment.
> Sprint springs 2.5in Front 2.25in Rear
>
> INTERIOR:
> 91 CRX dashboard with center console swap.
> Retaining Hatchback climate controls.
>
> AUTOMETER GAUGES:
> 5in tach with shift light.
> Mechanical boost gauge
> Mechanical oil pressure
> Air fuel ratio
> Voltage
> Indiglo gauges
> wepon r 4 point harness
> DC short throw shifter w/poly bushings
>
> STEREO/SECURITY
> Pioneer xm ready radio
> Boston accoustic 6 1/2 component
> Honda rear speaker kit
> Alpine 40x4 AMP
> Viper 1500 remote start
> Alarm with backup battery
> Push botton start
Modified by feeldaboost at 6:24 AM 3/4/2004
here is a full List of mods that my buddy matt and i built in my 91 civic hatch. let me know what u think. its a bad *** ride.
>
zdyne gold for fuel managment
> MOTOR: DOHC ZC 1.7L
> Full race port and polish head.
> New unshrouded valves, springs, valve guides, keepers.
> 3 angle valve job.
> New valve guide seals.
> Milled head.
> Garrett t-3 turbo @15psi with .42 compressor and .48 turbine
> Greddy BOV
> CRX ported exhuast manifold.
> Custom mandrel bend down pipe
> Custom saab intercooler@ 234ci
> 91 rebuilt SI transmission with Phantom grip LSD
> Upgraded Driverside Axle (thicker)
> Zdyne Gold ECU Fully programmable (HASPORT)
> 450cc Eclipse gsx Injectors
> 2 bar map sensor
> 255L/hr Holly Fuel pump
> Lightened stock Flywheel (13lbs) Balanced
> Act stage 3 racing clutch / pressure plate balanced
> Custom 2 1/2 in exhaust
> Both Cams regrind for drag racing
> Block ported 0.20 over
> JE pistons (0.20 over) 9:1 compression (balanced)
> JE wrist pins
> Crower rods (balanced)
> Custom bearings
> JE piston rings
> Block gaurd
> Polyurithane motormounts
> Battery relocated into trunk (rearhatch)
> Exterior emergency electrical kill switch on hatch (for drag guidlines)
> crank pullie balanced
> ARP head stud kit
> custom adapter plate from turbo to exhaust manifold.
>
>
> BRAKES:
> Big brake upgrade in front and rear
> FRONT: 94 integra calipers w/11" 92 VW corrado rotors and axis ultimate pads.
> REAR: drum to disc conversion. 94 integra calipers. 11.4 in 89 300zx rotors with EBC GREENSTUFF brake pads.
> 94 integra e-brake cables
> 91 civic ex master cylinder upgrade.
>
> SUSPENTION:
> Front and rear upper strut tower bars.
> 16" Rota Circuit 8 Wheels.
> 205-40-16 Nitto Z-rated tires
> Camber kit with 3 degree adj. and 4 wheel alignment.
> Sprint springs 2.5in Front 2.25in Rear
>
> INTERIOR:
> 91 CRX dashboard with center console swap.
> Retaining Hatchback climate controls.
>
> AUTOMETER GAUGES:
> 5in tach with shift light.
> Mechanical boost gauge
> Mechanical oil pressure
> Air fuel ratio
> Voltage
> Indiglo gauges
> wepon r 4 point harness
> DC short throw shifter w/poly bushings
>
> STEREO/SECURITY
> Pioneer xm ready radio
> Boston accoustic 6 1/2 component
> Honda rear speaker kit
> Alpine 40x4 AMP
> Viper 1500 remote start
> Alarm with backup battery
> Push botton start
Modified by feeldaboost at 6:24 AM 3/4/2004
Thread Starter
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: albuquerque, nm, usa
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (feeldaboost)
could the low oil pressure be from to big of a oil feed line??? i have no oil dipstick?
could these be the problem???????
Andy
15psi zc
could these be the problem???????
Andy
15psi zc
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,723
Likes: 1
From: BC
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (USDM 4G VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDM 4G VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wrong buddy
By the Chiltons manual , ALL DATA, Haynes, and many online resources we know the following oil pressure for most Honda B and D motors...
10 psi @ idle (750 rpms)
50 psi @ 3000 rpms
from experience.. if u get less than 10 psi on idle... check the oil , change it, run a magnet thru it and see if theres any metal dust or particles.. or if ur oil pump is clogged, or u will spun a bearing and trow a rod!!! done it already</TD></TR></TABLE>
Weird. My brother's B16 has way more PSI at idle. It also has up to about 75 psi at WOT. It runs great too.
Wrong buddy
By the Chiltons manual , ALL DATA, Haynes, and many online resources we know the following oil pressure for most Honda B and D motors...
10 psi @ idle (750 rpms)
50 psi @ 3000 rpms
from experience.. if u get less than 10 psi on idle... check the oil , change it, run a magnet thru it and see if theres any metal dust or particles.. or if ur oil pump is clogged, or u will spun a bearing and trow a rod!!! done it already</TD></TR></TABLE>
Weird. My brother's B16 has way more PSI at idle. It also has up to about 75 psi at WOT. It runs great too.
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,365
Likes: 2
From: 60ft garage, CA, USA
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (Mr. S)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. S »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Weird. My brother's B16 has way more PSI at idle. It also has up to about 75 psi at WOT. It runs great too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The psi numbers people are mentioning are the MINIMUM required until inspection/rebuild is needed. My B17 is about the same as your brothers. A good rule of thumb is 10 psi for every 1,000 RPM.
Weird. My brother's B16 has way more PSI at idle. It also has up to about 75 psi at WOT. It runs great too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The psi numbers people are mentioning are the MINIMUM required until inspection/rebuild is needed. My B17 is about the same as your brothers. A good rule of thumb is 10 psi for every 1,000 RPM.
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 252
Likes: 0
From: Kalamazoo, Mi
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (fourthgenhatchB17)
well my ZC has about 22 psi at idle and will jump up to 80 psi when cold and around 70 when warmed up.... it just depends on the condition of the motor... they are all a little different.... but 10 is okay...... just dont want like 5 or anything low..... but it is fine.....
Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,215
Likes: 1
From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (feeldaboost)
Sounds pretty built up to me. All you are missing is 
a resleeved block. ****, your car sounds on par with mine. I still need to put in some other.
a resleeved block. ****, your car sounds on par with mine. I still need to put in some other.
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 753
Likes: 0
From: Ottawa, On, Canada
Re: ZC Honda TURBO OIL PRESSURE PROBLEM (feeldaboost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by feeldaboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can i loost oil pressure if i dont have a good seal on my dipstick?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No.
You can run without a dipstick or an oil filler cap and that wont affect your oil pressure. The pressure is inside the oil lines themselves...not inside the pan
No.
You can run without a dipstick or an oil filler cap and that wont affect your oil pressure. The pressure is inside the oil lines themselves...not inside the pan
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,834
Likes: 1
From: OH
guys
keep in mind when the oil is cold is actually ticker wich in terms makes the pressure go up
when i first got my pressure gauge it was reading 80 psi
once it warmed and was used to it, i got the true readings
more PSI=good , no doubt about that
keep in mind when the oil is cold is actually ticker wich in terms makes the pressure go up
when i first got my pressure gauge it was reading 80 psi
once it warmed and was used to it, i got the true readings
more PSI=good , no doubt about that
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
