Ok. Does anyone know what needs to be modified to make the vortec supercharge fit an ITR motor? I know that vortec isnt making it for the ITR but it is making it for the GSR. If anyone knows what needs to be modified or converted to make this unit fit, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

I dont think you can but if you can it's gona coast you and for that you should of just gottin a jrsc and then you can forget about the problems

 

Thanks for the tip The only problem is that the vortec supercharger puts out around 100 hp for the b18c1 engine. But the JR supercharger only puts out around 50. I figured if i could convert it, I would be able to get the 100 hp gain on my engine. I've herd of them converting one and putting it on an ITR engine. It's just I'm not exactly sure how reliable it is.

 

but what would be different between gsr and itr motor?

they are all b serise but what else? do they have different size ?

 

There are alot of things that are different between the b18c1 and b18c5. Even the compression ratio and cams are different. As far as my problem goes, I believe the intake manifolds are different too. Which could cause a problem.

 

besides the greatly increased chance of blowing your Higher compression ITR engine, not much difference....

 

I'm still wondering what is it that needs to be changed. I know its possible. Just the other day I was reading about one that had 13:1 compression and it had the vortec system on it. I mean, I know thats alittle over doing it. But, I still want to put the system on my motor without increasing stupid things like compression.

 

To get it to fit, all you would need to do is modify the intake plumbing to attach to the ITR manifold rather than the GSR manifold. I would suggest having with some form of proper fuel management such as Hondata. I don't think reliability would be too much of an issue. There are turbo ITR's on stock longblocks running more boost and much higher horsepower than the Vortec makes.

 

Swap a GSR head onto your ITR; then the Vortech will bolt right up. I would not do it, but diff'rent strokes.

 

like posted earlier the pipe going to the manifold will be different. plus the boost level might be a hair to high for the type r, but im sure you could work around that since the jackson kit is like a .5lb differance between the type r and gsr/b16. does vortech make a kit for the B16? if so get that then you wont have to worry about getting a differnt pipe made for your intake, it will just be a little small for your throttle body, but the bends would be correct.

 

i think you should do more research first it seems like your looking to blow your motor if you do it with the vortech thats a lot more power and with that power gain that means a lot of compression and the R has a lot already.

 

may as well go turbo if you are going with vortech, it makes all it's power in high rpms anyway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr. Pepper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the tip The only problem is that the vortec supercharger puts out around 100 hp for the b18c1 engine. But the JR supercharger only puts out around 50. I figured if i could convert it, I would be able to get the 100 hp gain on my engine. I've herd of them converting one and putting it on an ITR engine. It's just I'm not exactly sure how reliable it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the typical newB stunnah reply...."It makes 100 hp compared to 50!!" Yeah....right....obviously you have no idea how to read a dyno graph...

You don't go on peak numbers, that's what under educated people do...do some research on how to read a graph. Getting a vortech would be a huge mistake.

 

cough dyno queen cough

 

yeah so itr is definitely a total and complete moron.. actually i kno how to read a dyno.. because i saw the stats.. and plus i called both companies and they faxed me dyno charts.. so umm how about that.. un educated ppl huh.. yeah because actually im pretty well educated... oh by the way... the jackson racing supercharger says it will at 52 hp max and the vortec which is a totaly different kind of supercharger setup does add alittle bit over 100 hp. obviously i am educated on the subject but also u just take d*ck up your ***. so dont put me down. but too everyone else, thanx for all your replies on the subject. i appreciate them.

 

Read up on blowers:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=74287

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=139033

 

Trust me, you don't know how to read a dyno...you are looking at peak numbers again....a newB does that....you are a newB....

Look at the torque curve...there's a lot more area under the Jackson...I guarantee it...

You and superchargers do have one thing in common I see....you both blow out a lot of hot air...

 

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Putting the GSR head on the c5 longblock will yield an even higher Static CR. I don't think he really needs/wants that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr. Pepper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah so itr is definitely a total and complete moron.. actually i kno how to read a dyno.. because i saw the stats.. and plus i called both companies and they faxed me dyno charts.. so umm how about that.. un educated ppl huh.. yeah because actually im pretty well educated... oh by the way... the jackson racing supercharger says it will at 52 hp max and the vortec which is a totaly different kind of supercharger setup does add alittle bit over 100 hp. obviously i am educated on the subject but also u just take d*ck up your ***. so dont put me down. but too everyone else, thanx for all your replies on the subject. i appreciate them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, you may know how to 'read' a dyno, but do you know what you're looking at when comparing two different types of setups? Meaning...

Do you know why the centrifugal type blower (vortech) pulls better peak numbers in comparison to the JRSC type blower setup?

Do you have a power goal or specific application you'll be using this setup for? If you're looking for peak power and bragging rights, be my guest and blow your money on that piece of crap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cough dyno queen cough</TD></TR></TABLE>

Beat me to it. Impressive peak #, but that's about it.

 

A proper sized turbo would be faster, and probably cheaper.

 

Look at this kid, not even on her for more than a day, and he's already starting ****. Don't know though Mike, I'm thinking you should go turbo, as I'm thinking I might, you don't really have to worry about how turbo's might take a lot of boost to make power becasue you can always just up the boost on a controller right before a race, and then lower it for cruising. Talk to you later Brotha.

Yeah, and for the *** that posted below me, you could blow me with that mentality. How do you figure, you make no sense, so seriously, your mouth, talking, no, that's the second best thing you can do with that mouth. BLOW ME!


Modified by Electron Si at 1:20 AM 2/17/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Electron Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't really have to worry about how turbo's might take a lot of boost to make power becasue you can always just up the boost on a controller right before a race, and then lower it for cruising. Talk to you later Brotha.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow....if you do go turbo, you will be blowing up your engine with this mentality.

 

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Wow....if you do go turbo, you will be blowing up your engine with this mentality.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha your gay. ur paints are too tight. they are cutting of the circulation to your brain... take ur foot. bend it backwards.. then shuve it up ur ***... and dyno that.

 

If you want a vortech kit so bad why dont you just get the LS s/c kit!