i was just curious of peoples expierience with them??? more so the tuning they provide???

Landon

 

Yes I heard of Trick the owner Jeff Mogano and Partner is Rick. They can tune pretty well it seen some nice things. They use to work at Perfomance Racing.What are you running for ECU because Mike at Perfomance Does Hondata. And Trick is better at there AEM EMS system.If you want to check out Performace there number (978)688-1290 for more info. I hoped i helped you alittle more

 

yea thanks you did!! i am going to be running a p72 and hondata s200, would you not recomend going to trick for hondata??? do they even tune hondata??? thanks

Landon

 

i've been dealing with trick for about 4 years now,there the best speed shop around this area. i ran 13.1 with my integ with a trick build. i also ran 12.4 with my hatch both setups were high compression nos setups. there more known for there turbo setups whitch they are untouchable. they have the fastest track proven hondas in the boston/new hampshire area. give them a call 603 329 6083 or trickengineering.com

 

there are other shops in the MA/NH area. it all depends what your needs are. some shops are limited to just honda and/or drag racing knowledge. some shops specialize in drag and road racing. there are a few shops here that not only work on hondas but toyota, mazdas, subaru, nissan, mostly all makes and models of sport compact cars. tuning skill? that i dont know but ive heard good and bad about that shop. if i were u id look around a little more. untouchable n there turbo setups? dont know about that one. hell u can take a look at the drop shop for instance those guys can fab a complete turbo system from scratch. making all parts in house from manifolds(for all cars not just hondas) to intercoolers, charge piping, PROPER turbo selection, and all aspects of tuning almost all stand alones not just hondata and aem ems. and fastest hondas? that can be argued all day. what do u consider fast? a car that can go straight really fast? or a car that can rip up the 1/4 mile AND embarass turbo porsches on the road course? and still be daily driven. hmmmm


Modified by TS engineering at 12:00 PM 2/16/2004

 

I think if you recommend the drop shop, you should also recommend that people do a search on this forum for the 'drop shop'. I remember some very long threads a while back about people buying stuff from them and never receiving it.

 

im not recomending any shop im using it as an example. my whole point was to look around. there could be other places that might be able to help him with what he needs. i used the dropshop becuase i know there capabilities. I didnt use bpr or ****'s becuase i dont know much about there shops to be able to say what they can or cant do

 

this is honda-tech right? oooh ok. and yes they tune aem and hondata,there are a few other shops in the area but for a all around honda/acura specialists T.E takes the cake.

 

I have never heard or seen anything good from the drop shop ... they have a lot of shady stuff going on .. like not sending someone there turbo manifold for a year . thats just not right . if you can not come up with the part then refund there money . as for there fabricating skills they may be ok but just about anyone can make a log style turbo manifold. also a reliable shop would post there address on there web site not just Hudson NH ...seems shady. maybe because they have moved 3 or 4 times to different shops in totally different towns ...why???? as for hondata goes they have a hackers version of it for way less money . good price but seems like a hack way to do it .... just spend the money for hondata and do it right. i have never seen any real fast cars from them . not saying they do not have some but i have not seen any .... I have seen some very good products come from Trick Engineering they also do there own custom turbo set ups just look on there web site there is a few on there ... they tune aem , hondata , afc , etc with there own wide band as well as on the dyno . but it is up to you who to use for your shop .

 

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Just to clarify a few things for a user who's been around for 4 posts, and 28 days:

The Drop Shop moved out of Hudson NH because of the building. Rent was more than $2500/month, that's pretty steep for a 2-bay garage with a cracked foundation. They've got the same sq.ft space now for way less overhead.

They've only ever moved twice. Lets not turn this into a libel-fest. Pretty soon its going to be they moved 8 times in 3 states.

John can fully-tune both Hondata, Uberdata (or its variants), and AEM EMS. How do I know? He tuned my stage 2 in the Integra Type-R, and EMS in my turbo civic.
Both cars were tuned down in my area (South MA / Rhode Island). People travel as far away as NY/NJ/CT/MA/ ... Canada... because he can tune, and tune well.

Not a lot of people have seen "drop shop" cars because they dont wear it across the windshield like a badge on their chest.

I've never seen a Trick Engineering, BPR, PFmodify, or any other MA-based Honda/Acura shop car at the tracks I race on (New Hampshire Int'l Raceway, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock Park, etc). Lets keep it in perspective.

I'm not saying the shops above dont do good work, but lets be realistic here.
I've heard fairly good things about Trick Engineering, but they haven't worked on my cars, so I can't vouch for them. Please extend the same courtesy unless they have worked on or tuned your car in-person. I haven't visited the drop shop in probably 3 months, so please dont assume I'm a paid employee or something.

 

hey that's great that the drop shop didn't screw you. I'm glad you don't have a sob story about sending in your hard earned cash and not getting anything from them in over a year.
But it seems that a lot of people do.
I'm just giving the guy a heads up to do his own search and come to his own conclusions.
And don't start with this stuff about libel. There is no libel in saying that they may have moved their shop. None whatsoever.
Don't forget that the drop shop might have their own legal issues to worry about with people threatening class-action lawsuits against them.

but why don't you try to keep to the subject, which is trick engineering and not jack this guy's thread.

 

I didn't say they were a stellar business, and they didn't have their problems.
By all means, research any place you bring your car to, make your own conclusion. Like I said, I heard good things about Trick Engr, but I dont know them personally, nor have they worked on my car, and that -is- the topic after all.

I didn't say it was libelous, I pointed out they moved myself. Hearsay tends to get out of hand on a drama-level, and numbers / quantities change. I wanted to keep it in perspective.

Bandwagons are prevailant on Honda-Tech (a-duh). All I wanted to point out was that a lot of customers "hear" things about other shops, but never have any work done there. Go talk to the people that run their respective shops and look at the work they do, that usually tells you lots about what you are getting yourself into.
It also depends on what your application would be, Trick has a pretty good rep for drag racing.

 

By the Way Jeff and RIck Worked at from TE worked at Perfomance for a long time..All i recomend is at least to go to one or another and no one else.I just think TE is better with the AEM deal then Hondata thats my thought..It your just you disicision on were you want to go..I just recomending Call up Perfomance and Trick and just see what you like to hear better..

 

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Just to clarify a few things for a user who's been around for 4 posts, and 28 days:

The Drop Shop moved out of Hudson NH because of the building. Rent was more than $2500/month, that's pretty steep for a 2-bay garage with a cracked foundation. They've got the same sq.ft space now for way less overhead.

They've only ever moved twice. Lets not turn this into a libel-fest. Pretty soon its going to be they moved 8 times in 3 states.

John can fully-tune both Hondata, Uberdata (or its variants), and AEM EMS. How do I know? He tuned my stage 2 in the Integra Type-R, and EMS in my turbo civic.
Both cars were tuned down in my area (South MA / Rhode Island). People travel as far away as NY/NJ/CT/MA/ ... Canada... because he can tune, and tune well.

Not a lot of people have seen "drop shop" cars because they dont wear it across the windshield like a badge on their chest.

I've never seen a Trick Engineering, BPR, PFmodify, or any other MA-based Honda/Acura shop car at the tracks I race on (New Hampshire Int'l Raceway, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock Park, etc). Lets keep it in perspective.

I'm not saying the shops above dont do good work, but lets be realistic here.
I've heard fairly good things about Trick Engineering, but they haven't worked on my cars, so I can't vouch for them. Please extend the same courtesy unless they have worked on or tuned your car in-person. I haven't visited the drop shop in probably 3 months, so please dont assume I'm a paid employee or something.
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So you Haven't seen any of Perfomance's work at the (New Hampshire Int'l Raceway, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock Park, etc)Well do you Know Grove He drives a Blue Delsol all his work has been done by Perfomance.Just put it this way the turbo,Mani,and part In Jeff's Sapposeable TE built was all paid by Perfoamance when he was an employeey Just to let oyu all know that ..Inside Scoop Betcha didn't know that one All you TE customers ..Why do you have to lie to get customers?

 

damn, wanna reword the last two posts so they're readable? It looks like you got some good info there

 

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all the guy wanted. and the thread turned into a **** talking festival. in anycase, talk to each shop you are looking at and ask for dynocharts of hondata tuned cars with a similar setup. see if you can talk to the owners of the actual cars, not just people who are reading what they see/hear elsewhere then regurgitating it here.

 

So what does the fact that performance payed for the turbo parts have to do with tricks tuning .... just cause he payed for them does not mean he tuned the car. And from what i have heard is that the guys at trick are the ones that got performance into the honda swaps , performance had done one swap prior to them working there. and jeffs H22 swap was installed into the 2000 hatch before they worked there , the turbo was installed when they worked there. They never lied about performance paying for the parts big deal who cares... still has nothing to do with tuning.

As for the drop shop i personally have not had work done by them but i have talked to many people who have . some had good things to say some had bad to say I was just posting the bad cause there was way more bad then good but that is just my opinon ... the questions is if they moved to a new shop because rent was to high thats there choice but where is the new shop it is not posted on there site nor was it ever posted . any reputable business would post there address on there site. if i were looking to get my car tuned by them how do i find there shop with no address. makes no sense and thats the truth . I am not trying to bash them just letting people know the facts as i see them . just my opinion. but feel free to check out any shops you may be interested in its your choice not mine.

 

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So you Haven't seen any of Perfomance's work at the (New Hampshire Int'l Raceway, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock Park, etc)Well do you Know Grove He drives a Blue Delsol all his work has been done by Perfomance. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope. Never heard of Grove or seen a blue del sol. Been to a bunch of track events at LRP and NHIS in the last year and never once did I ever see a blue del sol. Hell, I hardly saw that many hondas at all. I mostly did SCDA and COMSCC events.

As for Trick Engineering, I've heard good things about them. They don't have there own dyno I believe, but one is very close by. They seem to have a good rep with turbo setups and aimed at drag racing. Fastest in the NE, don't know abotu that one. Quick yeah but just because they haven't been beat at Epping by another honda doesn't mean much. I have never been to TE though.

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trick enginieerring equals teh suck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what does the fact that performance payed for the turbo parts have to do with tricks tuning .... just cause he payed for them does not mean he tuned the car. And from what i have heard is that the guys at trick are the ones that got performance into the honda swaps , performance had done one swap prior to them working there. and jeffs H22 swap was installed into the 2000 hatch before they worked there , the turbo was installed when they worked there. They never lied about performance paying for the parts big deal who cares... still has nothing to do with tuning.

As for the drop shop i personally have not had work done by them but i have talked to many people who have . some had good things to say some had bad to say I was just posting the bad cause there was way more bad then good but that is just my opinon ... the questions is if they moved to a new shop because rent was to high thats there choice but where is the new shop it is not posted on there site nor was it ever posted . any reputable business would post there address on there site. if i were looking to get my car tuned by them how do i find there shop with no address. makes no sense and thats the truth . I am not trying to bash them just letting people know the facts as i see them . just my opinion. but feel free to check out any shops you may be interested in its your choice not mine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you are truly interested in the place, why not just email them and talk to them? i would sure as hell call a place before i just showed up. the address used to be posted on there, and when it was, there were problems.

 

sorry to bring this post back but i am just looking for a place within 3 hours to get my hondata tuned GOOD. im not looking to break any records, just be safe. im willing to travel as far as conneticut (sp?), but would like to go somewhere a little closer (NH, Mass, etc). trick was the only shop i have heard that was around that tunes hondata.

Landon

 

talk to sinitron...brian should be able to point you to a decent tuner...he's also organizing a tune day w/ a few other peeps for his ems...im sure the tuner ( i think is natedogg) would be able to tune the hondata