'95 B18C1
*7.5ish psi
*AEM CAI V2.0
*Kamikaze 4-1
*2.5 inch straight cat-back with "Turbo" muffler
*440cc injectors

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AEM EMS (P1 Automotive map, 2hrs of tuning)




AEM EMS over the Hondata 3B (Hondata provided JRSC map)



AEM EMS data



Hondata data



Note: In Hondata's defense, the Hondata was not tuned on site by us.


Enjoy

 

Same setup but with stock exhaust and old aem(i think it was)

 

note to all


Sgt's post is a different type of dyno so # comparisions are pointless, my plots are SAE corrected BTW

My intention with the above was to show people that the EMS does work and works well.

Plug and Play is

 

Shouldn't the post be better off being named:

P1 tuning vs. base map?

You know if you run the base JRSC EMS map it wouldn't look "pretty" either....

 

To both

 

You know if you run the base JRSC EMS map it wouldn't look "pretty" either....

never claimed it would

 

Jack...do you know why there was a variance in the boost pressure on the Hondata setup? It shows a drop of ~2psi compared to the AEM EMS.

Austin

 

nicey...I wish I could get my **** fine tuned. stop posting these plots Jack, yer playing with my emotions.

 

I'm so glad I sold my Hondata. What a pain in the *** to tune. This AEM system looks like it's work every penny!


Modified by mrlegoman at 12:06 PM 2/11/2004

 

So were does VTEC kick in?

 

EMS Will be buying from Jack veeery soon

 

So is this really Type R related?

 

Why must you tease us Jack?

 

Not a very fair comparison. Some less educated people might think that based on this test, the AEM EMS is much better than Hondata.

 

Sweet... EMS keeps looking sweeter and sweeter.... Hey if I pick one up from you at that expo meet, do I get some free tuning

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not a very fair comparison. Some less educated people might think that based on this test, the AEM EMS is much better than Hondata.</TD></TR></TABLE>Define "better"
Is the AEM eaiser to setup: yes
Is the Hondata a pain in the *** to setup: yes
Is a properly tuned AEM going to 'outperform' a properly tuned Hondata: probably will depend more on the tuner than the tuning device.
Is Jack a good tuner: he's the best I've seen. Props Jack

 

I agree, this is a very bad comparison. We all know that the EMS works. All standalones are going to provide similar plots, not exact, but close. Considering that 95% of this forum doesn't read they'll just look at the plots and just say "wow hondata sucks!"

 

Was the Hondata every properly tuned? I know it wasn't by you, but somewhere else?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave-ROR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Considering that 95% of this forum doesn't read they'll just look at the plots and just say "wow hondata sucks!"</TD></TR></TABLE>

My point exactly.

 

Hondata vs. Power FC https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=576701

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So is this really Type R related?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Jack...do you know why there was a variance in the boost pressure on the Hondata setup? It shows a drop of ~2psi compared to the AEM EMS.

Did not investigate, customer is revamping the belt/idler pulley setup as we speak, that will most likely fix that issue

JRSC's are know to slip (belt) if not properly maintained.

 

I think a motor setup couldve done just as well, but im not here to talk about my Bias of All motor vs Forced Induction.

Great plots Jack and SGT. How high did the engine temp go up? My bud had a GSR that was charged and it had a lil heat problem.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave-ROR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree, this is a very bad comparison. We all know that the EMS works. All standalones are going to provide similar plots, not exact, but close. Considering that 95% of this forum doesn't read they'll just look at the plots and just say "wow hondata sucks!"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nicely said

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hondata vs. Power FC https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=576701</TD></TR></TABLE>

As a sidenote, I did the tuning under Jack's supervision. The car is really lightly modded so the power was as expected . . .very similar.