Blew my motor at Inline pro on the dyno on monday...need a new bottom end...John Lee (Inline Pro) recommended an Ls long block conversion...I need to do something rather quickly...does anybody have any suggestions?...any decent places to buy a stock Ls bottom end?...i searched but couldnt find too much info...places to buy the Ls long block for a decent price?...any help would be extremely helpful...
thanks for the help

 

blew it how?

 

Yes I want to know what happend??
Was inlinepro driving? How much boost?
What ems and motor?
Since you are in Md I will look around for one for you.
I am suprised inline is not helping you find a new block?? If it blew on there dyno then I would think they would at LEAST help you find a new block.
How long have you been doing buisness with inline??

 

check the classifieds there are a couple of ls blocks for sale.

 

Who was doing the tuning...you or Inline Pro? I think shops are used to being shady when it comes to things such as this...nothing is going to cause your engine to blow on a dyno but BAD TUNING...you should def talk to them or get a lawyer if they messed up...did you sign some form of waiver?

 

i have a 2000 honda civic si....stock b16a...john lee was driving...we got one clean run in and the bottom end blew....john lee said the ring landers went...he suggested either a gsr bottom end (stock)...ls vtec conversion (he wants me to do this setup)...or a fully built bottom end....he said fully built bottom end 3500 (gsr block with sleeves)....otherwise gsr without sleeves 2500...and another 1250 for installation...he said he felt badly for me because he was dynoing...he said he would help me out with labor...1250 is helping me out ...anyways.... i think the motor blowing was partly my fault...i should have gone with the hondata...we were having problems with my ignition...when i originally put my injectors in...i fucked the wiring up (im a ******* idiot), he re-wired the injectors then the motor blew after 2 more runs...my fuel setup was inline pro 440cc injectors...12:1 fmu...255 fuel pump...and vafc...tunning for 12lbs (3mm headgasket and inline pro cam gears)...12 lbs. didnt really get that far though...i live in nj so its hard for me to get down there, northern va....im a college student and i dont have that much money...so i dont know what im going to do....def. want to go with hondata though...**** the hack....if anybody knows of a used bottom end set-up thats for sale...please let me know...its my daily driver...im driving a $300 dodge shawdow with no heat...lol...and im kinda stuck here...

 

Get a lawyer.... Make him pay for it. Not to mention the lost money you spent on tuning the engine that he blew up. You should have no problem with the suit if you
ask for more than you need. If there's any doubt bring up negligence. I also would recommend a boycot(sp?).

 

That totaly sucks! From the sound of it he aint cutting you any deal on labor! I will also agree that it had to do with tuning! Do you have the A/F Map for the last run?
Why would you run 440's with a 12-1 FMU?? More importantly why would inline let you do that?? Even with the safc turned way down 12-1 is WAY TOO MUCH. I could see 8 to 1 maby??? I would tell inline to help you out more than they are or you are going to talk to a lawayer! Also ask for a copy of there terms and conditions on the dyno. Good Luck Man. Let use know what happens

 

Every shop i have known that has a dyno makes you sign a waver saying that they are not responsible for damage done on the dyno.

 

Probably something that inline did is what caused it to blow. I went in to them with a car that ran pretty well to get tuned. I left with a car that runs like ***. Right off the bat when he saw the B16 he said that it was worthless and that I should at least get a 1.8 bottom end. He tried a couple of different tunes and couldn't get a clean pull and said that something was wrong with my ignition. He said take out the MSD and run it stock. He also said that after the tuning I should put down around 240 to the wheels. I had 237 to the wheels before I went to him untuned. Overall I am unhappy, not to sure about there tuning abilities. Now I can hardley get past 4500 rpm. The base map that came with the hondata was way better then what I left with. Oh well, I am going to hit up SG-T Racing when it gets a bit warmer. Oh yea, he also said that my Action 2MD was crap because it used a dual diaphram and that I should get the stage 4 clutch that they sold. to my experience with them. Oh yea, not to mention the 2 hour wait while I was there and he was doing nothing but shooting the **** with people.

 

i have a sleeved ls shortblock for sale...check classifieds..


also, maybe try AR fab next time?

 

i left a message on your classified....havent heard back from you....im very interested though...hopefully i can get in touch with you soon...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zer0s0n5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a lawyer.... Make him pay for it. Not to mention the lost money you spent on tuning the engine that he blew up. You should have no problem with the suit if you
ask for more than you need. If there's any doubt bring up negligence. I also would recommend a boycot(sp?).</TD></TR></TABLE>
your a f**ing idiot, tune your own car or take the chance that it'll blow up can you do any better, mechanical failures happen, and the owner himself said he screwed the fuel system.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000turbosi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 2000 honda civic si....stock b16a...john lee was driving...we got one clean run in and the bottom end blew....john lee said the ring landers went...he suggested either a gsr bottom end (stock)...ls vtec conversion (he wants me to do this setup)...or a fully built bottom end....he said fully built bottom end 3500 (gsr block with sleeves)....otherwise gsr without sleeves 2500...and another 1250 for installation...he said he felt badly for me because he was dynoing...he said he would help me out with labor...1250 is helping me out ...anyways.... i think the motor blowing was partly my fault...i should have gone with the hondata...we were having problems with my ignition...when i originally put my injectors in...i fucked the wiring up (im a ******* idiot), he re-wired the injectors then the motor blew after 2 more runs...my fuel setup was inline pro 440cc injectors...12:1 fmu...255 fuel pump...and vafc...tunning for 12lbs (3mm headgasket and inline pro cam gears)...12 lbs. didnt really get that far though...i live in nj so its hard for me to get down there, northern va....im a college student and i dont have that much money...so i dont know what im going to do....def. want to go with hondata though...**** the hack....if anybody knows of a used bottom end set-up thats for sale...please let me know...its my daily driver...im driving a $300 dodge shawdow with no heat...lol...and im kinda stuck here...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey I got a block for sale let me know if you are interested

 

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your a f**ing idiot, tune your own car or take the chance that it'll blow up can you do any better, mechanical failures happen, and the owner himself said he screwed the fuel system.</TD></TR></TABLE>


this is the dumbest statement ive heard all day

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is the dumbest statement ive heard all day</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was waiting for someone to step in and say something like that, I firmly believe that the tuner is not responsible for replacement! tuner beware, if you get lawyers involved, dyno tuners will need malpractice insurance eventually! do you also file a lawsuit if he makes zero power?

 

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I was waiting for someone to step in and say something like that, I firmly believe that the tuner is not responsible for replacement! tuner beware, if you get lawyers involved, dyno tuners will need malpractice insurance eventually! do you also file a lawsuit if he makes zero power? </TD></TR></TABLE>


Im a tuner, and you dont think I should be responsible for blowing up peoples cars?

When i tune cars, i dont push it beyond a certain limit, once that limit is reached, if they want to go further, i tell them the risks. and its in their hands after that.

if a car is in question, if there is a decent chance something is going to happen, I wont touch it.

look at it this way:

if the car dealer blows up your motor because they forget to put oil back in the car, is it not their fault?


to add:
Now, i believe, if it blew up just doing a pull on the dyno w/ no tuning down what so ever by the shop, then its not the shops fault

 

Hmm...that's odd. Your car is probably the first that blew up on their dyno.

 

hey mase, dont feel like retyping, I think we are basically of the same mind set, kindly read my last post on this thread on the same topic:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=736058I am a real pain in the *** about symantics, thats all this is, and how this leads to peoples reputations being ruined real fast, blown up engines should be kept off message boards until resolved 100% between tunewr and car owner, the little **** that jumped on this thread and said : "get a lawyer" had no clue of the circumstances surrounding the car having a sudden dyno garage sale!!!

 

yea its true. u cnat get on a dyno w/o signing some b.s. it does suck when some1 blows ur car up too. i have no comments about this really, its too complucated

 

I would not let Inline touch a car of mine they have blown up to many cars (no offense is ment to you brian if you read this) but they have a serious problem with running a car TOO rich and running WAY!!! TOO much timing on everything they tune. Try AR FAB they know what they are doing and are good people.

 

y an ls longblock? why not just another b16a shortblock? you can get them cheap. I would just get a set of forged pistons and eagle rods (700-800$). Get a helms and build it yourself. You'll learn a lot. Overbore to 81.25/81.5 and honing should be like 60-100bux at a machine shop, if i remember correctly. Its been a while. Thats only like 1k.