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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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I have a 99 gsr and I raced my friends LS and he beat me. In 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear he took me by two cars. It wasn't until fourth that I finally caught up and he ended up beating me by half a car ( by the way he only has a custum cat-back exhaust, I'm stock). The next day I took my car to two different experienced Honda/Acura tuners. they both test drove my car. when they came back they told me that my car was lacking major bottom end power and that there was definently something wrong. I know that gsr's aren't really powerful in bottom end power, but my car is just way too slow. one of the honda tuners told me that it could be bad cam timing. does anyone else have any ideas as to what could be causing this problem? and can bad cam timing alone cause such a bad loss of power?
P.S. its not my driving skills because I've had my car for a couple of months now and have become pretty good at racing it. (when I race) everytime I shift my rpms don't go lower than 6000.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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Default Re: My GSR has no bottom end power, HELP! (gsrvtecpower)

what have you done to the car maintnence wise?

plugs/cap/rotor/fuel filter/dirty air filter?

how many miles on the car? have someone check your ignition timing as well

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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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Conflicting username with this topic dont you think?
yes cam and ignition timing can hurt you alot, get it checked. ive seen the cat converters getting clogged alot lately. also are you shifting @8200rpm and the revs in the next gear drop to 6000? is that what you mean?
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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Default Re: My GSR has no bottom end power, HELP! (gsrvtecpower)

Tune up, dirty air filter (real dirty) clogged catalytic, bad gas... anyone of these an more can be the cause.

Any check engine lights ? What grade gas are you using ?

BTW, cam timing being off, you would notice HORRIBLE idle.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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Give her a good tune-up. Let's hope it's not something terminal.

Where in Miami are you?

And by the way, welcome to Honda-Tech.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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bad timing can make a HUGE difference, my b16 was off on the timing and i had very very weak bottom end power
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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check your catalytic converter as it robs MAJOR power when it's shattered/clogged. i shattered the insides of mine running over a raccoon or something while mountain racing good luck

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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marcdogg816 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check your catalytic converter as it robs MAJOR power when it's shattered/clogged. i shattered the insides of mine running over a raccoon or something while mountain racing good luck

-marc</TD></TR></TABLE>

just run open header. if you see madd power gains, then you know it's the cat
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marcdogg816 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check your catalytic converter as it robs MAJOR power when it's shattered/clogged. i shattered the insides of mine running over a raccoon or something while mountain racing good luck

-marc</TD></TR></TABLE>


'Mountain Racing' .... wtf is that ? You mean racing on a road that goes thru mountains or were you offroading ?
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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Default Re: My GSR has no bottom end power, HELP! (X2BOARD)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by X2BOARD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tune up, dirty air filter (real dirty) clogged catalytic, bad gas... anyone of these an more can be the cause.

Any check engine lights ? What grade gas are you using ?

BTW, cam timing being off, you would notice HORRIBLE idle.</TD></TR></TABLE>


How would the idle act if the timing was off?
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by emissionsux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How would the idle act if the timing was off?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Very rough. It may not cause your rpms to change much, mine was retarded 1 tooth on intake and it idled at 700-800 but the damn car shook like hell, and when I went to hit the gas it bucked and sputtered till I got higher up in the rpms.
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blah13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Very rough. It may not cause your rpms to change much, mine was retarded 1 tooth on intake and it idled at 700-800 but the damn car shook like hell, and when I went to hit the gas it bucked and sputtered till I got higher up in the rpms.</TD></TR></TABLE>

never had that problem when my timing was off
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