Top end or Bottom end power?
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Top end or Bottom end power?
alright i got a d15b non vtec i thnk in a 92 civic 4 door, and i got alot of power i mean its mildly modded and i can keep up with b16's all day. anyways almost every person i race comes back on me once im in 3rd gear 1st and 2nd and going into 3rd is powerfull but mid 3rd most people come back on me dosent matter what they have. what am i loseing bottom end or top end power? and how do i build that up? by the way i have a stock exhaust? dose that have anything to do with it?
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Re: Top end or Bottom end power? (924doorEG)
1. you know absolutely nothing about what your attempting to talk about
2. your transmission is not geared for acceleration, that is your main downfall
3. your other downfall is that you have an economy motor which was never intended to be raced
have a good day
2. your transmission is not geared for acceleration, that is your main downfall
3. your other downfall is that you have an economy motor which was never intended to be raced
have a good day
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Re: Top end or Bottom end power? (Dann6968)
haha...d15b running with b16...lmao. wanna race me in my b16a eg? haha ill give u a first gear redline headstart. i dunno what b16 ur racing against...are they really racing or r u just taking off to look cool?
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Re: Top end or Bottom end power? (924doorEG)
let't get some more info here before we get into anything worthwhile...
what do you mean by "modded"? and are you sure you know what the difference between top-end power and low-end power are?
what do you mean by "modded"? and are you sure you know what the difference between top-end power and low-end power are?
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Re: Top end or Bottom end power? (hondamark35)
First off, your POS D15b7 couldn't keep up with a B16 with a blown headgasket. I'm not sure who to slap in the face first - you for claiming you can keep up with a B16, or them for (if they own a B16) losing to a stock *** B7.
The trans is geared for economy, not racing.
Intake/header/exhaust is NOT mildly modded, that's just standard.
You got two ways to push power out of that motor, VTEC Mini-me swap, and a '92-'95 EX/Si (Z6) transmission.
Do both of those and it'll be snappier, but you still won't be hanging with "real" B16's.
PS:
The bolded part is the important part. As bench racing isn't allowed I'm reporting.
The only thing you can do aside from turbocharging that's actually worth it on that motor is to go w/ an EX/Si trans and go with a mini-me head swap.
EDIT:
Oh yeah, the B7 puts out like 100hp at the fly...that's like 70hp at the wheels. Stop acting like ur B7's hot **** b4 I come out there and rail you with my bone stock daily driver w/ 210k TERCEL with NO TACH !
Seriously, it's people with B7's acting like they're hot **** that give bad names to Honda owners. You're B7's a piece of ****, and you just have to accept that.
Trans swap/mini-me swap and you're set for that motor, you can keep up with a Z6, then. Well, almost.
Secondary PS:
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You're not the first ricer to come in here asking how to make their stock B7 faster.
The trans is geared for economy, not racing.
Intake/header/exhaust is NOT mildly modded, that's just standard.
You got two ways to push power out of that motor, VTEC Mini-me swap, and a '92-'95 EX/Si (Z6) transmission.
Do both of those and it'll be snappier, but you still won't be hanging with "real" B16's.
PS:
The bolded part is the important part. As bench racing isn't allowed I'm reporting.
The only thing you can do aside from turbocharging that's actually worth it on that motor is to go w/ an EX/Si trans and go with a mini-me head swap.
EDIT:
Oh yeah, the B7 puts out like 100hp at the fly...that's like 70hp at the wheels. Stop acting like ur B7's hot **** b4 I come out there and rail you with my bone stock daily driver w/ 210k TERCEL with NO TACH !
Seriously, it's people with B7's acting like they're hot **** that give bad names to Honda owners. You're B7's a piece of ****, and you just have to accept that.
Trans swap/mini-me swap and you're set for that motor, you can keep up with a Z6, then. Well, almost.
Secondary PS:
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You're not the first ricer to come in here asking how to make their stock B7 faster.
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Re: Top end or Bottom end power? (Syndacate)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Seriously, it's people with B7's acting like they're hot **** that give bad names to Honda owners. You're B7's a piece of ****, and you just have to accept that.
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awww comon, i used to be cool with my b7 slowfuck civic
blown headgasket n all, it was still super fast
Seriously, it's people with B7's acting like they're hot **** that give bad names to Honda owners. You're B7's a piece of ****, and you just have to accept that.
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awww comon, i used to be cool with my b7 slowfuck civic
blown headgasket n all, it was still super fast
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Re: Top end or Bottom end power? (93egSLEEPER)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egSLEEPER »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> taking off to look cool</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Toroke »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please tell me when you turn onto a 25mph road you redline first every time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you did that on my street with my daughter outside i would crack ur head and steal your fast little d series
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Toroke »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please tell me when you turn onto a 25mph road you redline first every time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you did that on my street with my daughter outside i would crack ur head and steal your fast little d series
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Re: Top end or Bottom end power? (EJ8VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you did that on my street with my daughter outside i would crack ur head and steal your fast little d series</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, crack his head, don't steal.
seriously though, a lot of ppl here have a point. Boost it or take syndacate's adv ice
If you did that on my street with my daughter outside i would crack ur head and steal your fast little d series</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, crack his head, don't steal.
seriously though, a lot of ppl here have a point. Boost it or take syndacate's adv ice
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actully i got a 4.7 final drive tranny with lsd, skunk 2 pistons, intake,header and no exhaust im waitin to do my mini me, but the reason i can keep with with b16's is my gearing jesus christ
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Re: (924doorEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 924doorEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> skunk 2 pistons</TD></TR></TABLE>
u mean cam?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 924doorEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright i got a d15b non vtec i thnk in a 92 civic 4 door, and i got alot of power i mean its mildly modded and i can keep up with b16's all day. anyways almost every person i race comes back on me once im in 3rd gear 1st and 2nd and going into 3rd is powerfull but mid 3rd most people come back on me dosent matter what they have. what am i loseing bottom end or top end power? and how do i build that up? by the way i have a stock exhaust? dose that have anything to do with it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
when u post this, all we know is u have a d15b non vtec in a 92 4 door!
what kinda hp/tq are u looking for
$ involved?
u mean cam?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 924doorEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright i got a d15b non vtec i thnk in a 92 civic 4 door, and i got alot of power i mean its mildly modded and i can keep up with b16's all day. anyways almost every person i race comes back on me once im in 3rd gear 1st and 2nd and going into 3rd is powerfull but mid 3rd most people come back on me dosent matter what they have. what am i loseing bottom end or top end power? and how do i build that up? by the way i have a stock exhaust? dose that have anything to do with it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
when u post this, all we know is u have a d15b non vtec in a 92 4 door!
what kinda hp/tq are u looking for
$ involved?
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well i got around 4800 to spend lol, im lookin to get as much power as possible i really dont want to swap it out because i got some money into this one and the tranny, but i dont know what to do, i want my 3rd and 4th gear to be powerfull like my 1st and 2nd too.
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and i got a d16z6 head that at the machine shop now getting milled 10 thousands over, exhaust ports smoothed, bullfrog stage 1 cam and zex spings done to it.
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Re: (924doorEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you did that on my street with my daughter outside i would crack ur head and steal your fast little d series</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd love to do that so I could sue you for assault.
(Another ****-talking H-T member).
If he's not breaking the speed limit than the only thing he's doing is making too much noise - and that's only if he has an aftermarket exhaust. Other than that there's nothing illegal about it as long as he doesn't break 25, it's not even considered reckless driving. You should keep a better eye on your daughter.
x2 for useless, ****-talking H-T member.
If you did that on my street with my daughter outside i would crack ur head and steal your fast little d series</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd love to do that so I could sue you for assault.
(Another ****-talking H-T member).
If he's not breaking the speed limit than the only thing he's doing is making too much noise - and that's only if he has an aftermarket exhaust. Other than that there's nothing illegal about it as long as he doesn't break 25, it's not even considered reckless driving. You should keep a better eye on your daughter.
x2 for useless, ****-talking H-T member.
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Not that you aren't a ****-talking ht member...
Christ, If I had a dime for every self-righteous statement you made, I could pay civette to put an ls1 in my hatch.
******* napoleon complex wears a little thin- and I'm not even on here that much.
Christ, If I had a dime for every self-righteous statement you made, I could pay civette to put an ls1 in my hatch.
******* napoleon complex wears a little thin- and I'm not even on here that much.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maynards_ek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not that you aren't a ****-talking ht member...
Christ, If I had a dime for every self-righteous statement you made, I could pay civette to put an ls1 in my hatch.
******* napoleon complex wears a little thin- and I'm not even on here that much.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Christ, If I had a dime for every self-righteous statement you made, I could pay civette to put an ls1 in my hatch.
******* napoleon complex wears a little thin- and I'm not even on here that much.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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