Advice on price?
I have thought a lot about what I want to do to my car and here is the deal, I make money slow, and my car is a 96 with 138,000 miles on it. So I don't want to spend $20,000 and have it fall apart. I want to build my engine up so it will be fast N/A, however I think that I want to Supercharge it. I know that turbos are capable of much more power, but I will be way satisfied with running 14's, that's 13's for everyone else cause I live in Denver. I decided that a supercharger will give me the performance that I seek, power from the begining, good for auto cross, and probably streetable.
Now, I know that to make a strong N/A engine, higher compression is an important factor, but when adding a super charger, lowering compression is the deal. So, I was wondering what would be advantageous to buy to go fast before the super charger, then will still be useful when I add the charger. I figure this will make it much easier to save money if I do the whole engine first, then the charger later down the road.
Is this possible, would it be worth it to build N/A with stock pistons, then change those out when I want to get the charger. Who makes a charger that has a fairly high boost output? What does Jackson Racing put out, and why do a lot of people not like it?
I would really appreciate any suggestions or corrections that any of you guys have to offer. Please keep in mind that this is my daily driver. TIA!
Now, I know that to make a strong N/A engine, higher compression is an important factor, but when adding a super charger, lowering compression is the deal. So, I was wondering what would be advantageous to buy to go fast before the super charger, then will still be useful when I add the charger. I figure this will make it much easier to save money if I do the whole engine first, then the charger later down the road.
Is this possible, would it be worth it to build N/A with stock pistons, then change those out when I want to get the charger. Who makes a charger that has a fairly high boost output? What does Jackson Racing put out, and why do a lot of people not like it?
I would really appreciate any suggestions or corrections that any of you guys have to offer. Please keep in mind that this is my daily driver. TIA!
I just went to Jackson Racing.com and read all about their supercharger and liked what I heard. Maybe I don't need to do any engine work as far as port&polish and bottem end work.
I also noticed that one of the tech members lists his mods as a JRSC, a header, an intake, and an exhaust, and his time was like a 13.45 or something. That sounds totally acceptable to me without any engine build up. What do you guys think?
I also noticed that one of the tech members lists his mods as a JRSC, a header, an intake, and an exhaust, and his time was like a 13.45 or something. That sounds totally acceptable to me without any engine build up. What do you guys think?
One thing I was told when I was gonna go supercharger was to not change your cams...I think changing your intake cam will not go well with the JRSC...you'll actually lose hp. As far as the exhaust cam, I don't remember if it's detrimental. Run a search in honda-tech for more info., I think there's a lot on JRSC and cams.
You're going to have enough things to spend money on with the JRSC. I wouldn't bother with a NA buildup just to take it apart again. If you want to make improvements that will benefit both setups stick with suspension upgrades. They'll be good now and even better with the additional power of the SC.
Thanks guys, in fact, I was just thinking, why the hell should I try to build up in the first place, I want a supercharger now! I think I will continue the suspension.
P.S. GS-R916, you should probably change your icon man, cause I'm running low on pants and I have to work today.
P.S. GS-R916, you should probably change your icon man, cause I'm running low on pants and I have to work today.
I don't have a JRSC, but I have done a bit of research...
the unit is plug and play more or less, but in order to get your car running safely (even at 6psi) you have to upgrade your fuel pump, and the injectors are recomended upgrade as well. for precautionary measures (because our computers aren't designed to have a fuel map for FI) it is a good idea to put on a rising rate FPR, A/F guage, boost guage, and one other guage. there are other things that are recomended for best tuning, but the final product is a good reliable system that is a bit more simple to maintain than a turbo, but with any FI it is good to check things out more often than you would without.
as far as the cams, high overlap isn't good for a SC, for some reason it just doesn't work as well, I don't know the specifics, but stick with your gsr cams. with this in mind though, a port/pollish is always good, enhancing flow characteristics will help any car. just remember high overlap with SC is not going to show gains, and in most cases it will show losses.
head on over to this forum they are probably the highest collection of JRSC people on the net, and you can gain a wealth of knowledge from them in addition to what I wrote.
http://www.hostboard.com/cgi-bin/for...gras&number=40
the unit is plug and play more or less, but in order to get your car running safely (even at 6psi) you have to upgrade your fuel pump, and the injectors are recomended upgrade as well. for precautionary measures (because our computers aren't designed to have a fuel map for FI) it is a good idea to put on a rising rate FPR, A/F guage, boost guage, and one other guage. there are other things that are recomended for best tuning, but the final product is a good reliable system that is a bit more simple to maintain than a turbo, but with any FI it is good to check things out more often than you would without.
as far as the cams, high overlap isn't good for a SC, for some reason it just doesn't work as well, I don't know the specifics, but stick with your gsr cams. with this in mind though, a port/pollish is always good, enhancing flow characteristics will help any car. just remember high overlap with SC is not going to show gains, and in most cases it will show losses.
head on over to this forum they are probably the highest collection of JRSC people on the net, and you can gain a wealth of knowledge from them in addition to what I wrote.
http://www.hostboard.com/cgi-bin/for...gras&number=40
That's great, I didn't really want to have to buy cams if I didin't have to anyway. How much is a port and polish? And, yeah I read about the feul pump stuff on JRSC website. I probably will eventually go the fuel pump, rail, regulator, lines, injectors and gauge route anyway. About how much would something like that cost? I could probably do it myself to. Thanks for your research efforts too, they will really help me out.
Unlike GS-R916 who seems to want me to run out of pants by 3:00pm.
Thanks for all your help guys, I'm really getting excited, now all I need is $3,000!
Unlike GS-R916 who seems to want me to run out of pants by 3:00pm.
Thanks for all your help guys, I'm really getting excited, now all I need is $3,000!
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I would probably have the motor checked out or check it out yourself.. ie compression test, leakdown test to make sure your motor is A-ok to run FI... So that you dont spend $3000 on your SC and then blow your motor.. the miles are not real real high, but it wouldnt hurt ya know...
But one thing I will tell you is alot of people buy SC only to turn around and sell them for turbo's ... reason being is that you are really limited with the JRSC and you will want to be faster just as you do now even after you get your SC... fast is never fast enough.... IMO
But one thing I will tell you is alot of people buy SC only to turn around and sell them for turbo's ... reason being is that you are really limited with the JRSC and you will want to be faster just as you do now even after you get your SC... fast is never fast enough.... IMO
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