I am new to import cars, but since I first bought my '70 Nova SS I started studying about cars in general, and why should I leave out imports? The Nova is gone now and I'm looking into getting a new street rod, but this time, I want a cute car. I'm having trouble finding out about specific VTEC engines and the compatibility issues between them and different import cars. My chevy would pretty much take any V8 that I could find for it. I guess I'll come to the point.

The integra seems to be the car for me and I was wondering what type of trouble I would have by starting off the mod game by subbing in a VTEC V6 for the stock 4 banger. Any help would be appriciated, Thanks.

 

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Do some research outsideo of books for hybrid hondas.

https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch

 

In the works bro, reading just about everything I can get my little fingers on and anything that'll pop up on the 'net. Kinda like finding this site, lucky

 

One question though,, How does looking at hybrids tell me anything about V6's?,, I'm in for the power, not the fuel economy.

 

When they refer to hybrids here, they mean motor swaps, not gas/electric. So the hybrid forum is where you want to look.

 

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lol, this is funny... v-6 is not power... the v-6 is an automatic... the v-6 is worthless. Even if you found some way to cram it into the integra bay it wouldn't be worth it at all. And for the cost of a v-6, you could have built your stock motor and turboed it and make roughly 3 times the power output of the v-6.

 

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lol, this is funny... v-6 is not power... the v-6 is an automatic... the v-6 is worthless. Even if you found some way to cram it into the integra bay it wouldn't be worth it at all. And for the cost of a v-6, you could have built your stock motor and turboed it and make roughly 3 times the power output of the v-6.</TD></TR></TABLE>

don't forget the nsx

 

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What about the NSX engine?

Edit: doh someone beat me haha

 

or the cl and tl type s

 

NSX motor is ******* stupid. I'd rather a b18c5 for 1/3 of the price and the same performance.

-Ryan

 

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see above

 

how about the old c25?? twin turbo v6 that was developed as a special performance model of the legend. it can fit, but you may need to tube frame your front end and build custom mounts. anything is possible with the dedication, time and money. but it'll take alot of all 3. i say good luck.

and the v6 has something a stock honda 4-cyl will never have. torque.

 

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Don't bother swapping engines when you can get all the power you could dream of out of a 4. Just sleeve it and boost it (turbo...don't forget tuning) to your heart's content. 500hp should be enough for starters.

 

if you want close enough torque to a V6, look into the H22 swap. you can find them pretty cheap, the price of a B18C or cheaper, and you just have to get different mounts, axles and other wiring stuff. but if you really want a V6, prepare to customize a lot of stuff. i saw the magazine with the civic hatch with the NSX motor, that was !

 

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last time i checked, 3.0 cl v6 long blocks were going for $500 and 1.8 liter integra gsr long blocks were going for $1500; both in the same condition. the b18c has WAY to much ricer hype pumped into it so the price is stratospheric.

btw, with the $1k you save getting a 3.0 v6 you could get a set of forged pistons and more aggressive cams to get you reliably over 300hp.

why not put a bigger engine in a smaller car? use common sense . if you have GREAT mechanical skill, go ahead with the v6 swap and tell us the end result.

 

I wasn't the one who suggested it, I was just correcting the guy about hybrids.

On a related note, a local shop (Madahvi) near me has a NSX powered CRX. Motor's in the back and the car is RWD. It ran mid 10's on nitrous and is now turbo'd. I have no idea what it runs now.

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lol, this is funny... v-6 is not power... the v-6 is an automatic... the v-6 is worthless. Even if you found some way to cram it into the integra bay it wouldn't be worth it at all. And for the cost of a v-6, you could have built your stock motor and turboed it and make roughly 3 times the power output of the v-6.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

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last time i checked, 3.0 cl v6 long blocks were going for $500 and 1.8 liter integra gsr long blocks were going for $1500; both in the same condition. the b18c has WAY to much ricer hype pumped into it so the price is stratospheric.

btw, with the $1k you save getting a 3.0 v6 you could get a set of forged pistons and more aggressive cams to get you reliably over 300hp.

why not put a bigger engine in a smaller car? use common sense . if you have GREAT mechanical skill, go ahead with the v6 swap and tell us the end result.</TD></TR></TABLE>

core cost is oh-so-differant than installed cost. The amount of money you'll spend to put a v-6 put into an integra would LARGLY outweight the overall gains/cost of a normal B series or even an H series. v-6 is not worth the cost, the headaches, or even the gains.

Sure the v-6 might only cost 500, but to convert all the mounts or run a tube frame chassis with custom mount points + mandatory change in suspension is just insane.

B and/or H &gt; ANY v-6

p.s. if that didn't make sense.. time to lay off the psarks/beer diet for me.

 

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core cost is oh-so-differant than installed cost. The amount of money you'll spend to put a v-6 put into an integra would LARGLY outweight the overall gains/cost of a normal B series or even an H series. v-6 is not worth the cost, the headaches, or even the gains.

Sure the v-6 might only cost 500, but to convert all the mounts or run a tube frame chassis with custom mount points + mandatory change in suspension is just insane.

B and/or H &gt; ANY v-6

p.s. if that didn't make sense.. time to lay off the psarks/beer diet for me.
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lots of v6 motors that would make a integra fly...

4.3l vortec
3800 blown park buick park avenue
4.3l turbo (scylone/typhoon)
3.8l turbo buick (GN)

or just junkyard a chevy v6 and put some high comp pistons in it... then jimmy rig it into the integra... you're gunn have to anyways. convert it to rwd while you're at it

 

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core cost is oh-so-differant than installed cost. The amount of money you'll spend to put a v-6 put into an integra would LARGLY outweight the overall gains/cost of a normal B series or even an H series. v-6 is not worth the cost, the headaches, or even the gains.

Sure the v-6 might only cost 500, but to convert all the mounts or run a tube frame chassis with custom mount points + mandatory change in suspension is just insane.

B and/or H &gt; ANY v-6

p.s. if that didn't make sense.. time to lay off the psarks/beer diet for me.
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since the originator of this post is even considering putting a v6 into a teg, i assumed he has a lot of machinery and mechanical skill at his disposal and if you can put the v6 in yourself then by all means go ahead. a 1.8 or 2.2 liter honda engine trumps all v6s? there is so much wrong with that ill sum it up in one sentence:
<FONT SIZE="7">There is no replacement for displacement.</FONT>

 

Wow, I had no Idea that this would produce this type of response, we got tegasaurus over there with some insecurity and lashing out. I agree that
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3.2 liters is going to destroy whatever a 2.0 liter can muster all else being equal. There's no contest. That's why I used to dust civics in my nova.

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Actally, I've thought about that too. I decided long ago that stuffing a chevy v8 into a hyundai tiburon and runing rwd, cutting a hole in the floorboard to fit the transmission and drivetrain, any yanking everything but the engine out from under the hood was a bit too much work. It would make for a very fast car though.

I think the general answer to my question has been to leave the teg alone till you really need to tweak it like that and have the time and the money to get it done. Looks like it's time for me to continue looking up 4-cylinder tune ups and mods.
Thanks for everyones help. Once I get the car I'll let you all know what my final decision on the matter is.

 

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there was a rwd v8 accord in kills about a month ago; that thing was BADASS. if youre going to do a rwd v8 honda, get a crx; i used to have a pic of a red rwd crx that had a supercharged merlin 632 towering through the hood.