I own a 98 itr,which has 16' stock rims.It really needs to be lowered cause it looks really high with stock springs.What do you advise.. Spoon Springs or Ground Control adjustable springs?

 

stock is 15" btw...

and ground controls are coilovers, spoon are just springs.

 

Get Ground Control if you want the height adjusting advantage and Spoons are just springs that lower your car about 1 inch only.

 

My stock are 16'!! Don't forget that my itr is JDM..

 

how long will the stock shockabsorbers last if i lower?

 

I'd suggest the H&R springs with the stock dampers.
The rates are just a bit stiffer and they lower the car for better handling as well.

JMHO Ed

 

This question interests me as well, as i too need to lower 98 JDM ITR.

We are worried that the shocks will not last if we lower our cars with only the springs what do you think guys?..........Also it would be better if we can get sprngs that are close to stock stiffness....as our roads are kinda bumpy

We can get European Spec Koni Yellows that offer the rears with 3 height perches and they are adjustable from the outside.....the 8041-1152 and the 8041-1164 Sports.

Do you think that if we install the yellow konis with our stock sprrings the car will have a lower stance..........let's say close to the drop that can be achieved with the H&R's please?


Rgds,

 

I love my GC coilovers! 360/280 setup!

 

Is it much more stifer than than the stock spring rate??? Im planning to get some Pro 1 coilover rated at 400lbs front and 350lbs rear

Cheers

 

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and ground controls are coilovers, spoon are just springs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Technically neither are coilovers. They are just coil spring sets, either way. One does come with a threaded sleeve, making a normal shock+threaded sleeve+coil spring combo a threaded sleeve coilover as opposed to the stock non-threaded body/sleeve coilovers.

But to answer his question, GC without a doubt.

 

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Cheers</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stock ITR springs are 246lbs/in front and rear (rears are progresive). IMO I'd keep them about the same, so 350/350, etc. 400/350 is fine with proper dampers (I wouldn't use the stock ones for long with those rates) but will be bouncy with undervalved shocks.

JDM 98 Spec R: If all you want is a lower ride, just get a ground control setup with 300/300 or so rates. It'll handle very close to stock, provide height adjustability, can use stock shocks for awhile and will be slightly stiffer. Do NOT go crazy with lowering it. With such weak effective spring rates it'll bottom out quite easily and murder the shocks.

 

Lovin' my sp00ms y0

 

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No you don't bitch. lol

 

Thanks for the advise Dave.. The only good and cheap solution is Koni yellows! But, only 30 mm!!! it has to go down at least 45-50 mm.what do you think?

 

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If that's the case, just cut your stock springs. LOL!

 

i think some Tein RAs would be very nice

but seriously IMHO Spoon&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;GCs i never like my GCs on my Celica...they just put it in the dirt

 

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but seriously IMHO Spoon&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;GCs i never like my GCs on my Celica...they just put it in the dirt </TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you ever driven a car with spoon springs? I guess they are cool if you like understeer and all...

GCs are very good. If your celica rode like *** then perhaps you should have researched suspensions more and bought some better matched dampers. If "put it in the dirt meant "too low" well, uhmm there's those little things you turn.. and it raises the car.. amazing I know...

Not trying to be a dick here, I'd just rather have oem springs over the spoons, but maybe I'm just weird or ignorant like that.

JDM: if you want it ~2" lower (or 50.8mm for you metric hoes) just run any spring you want that has that much of a drop and get some better springs. If you want to do this for increased handling, then your choices are more limited and are best determined by your driving style. Spoons might work for you, but for me, they don't.

 

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If that's the case, just cut your stock springs. LOL!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I prefer to heat them and have 10 people stand on the car while they cool

 

I would get the GC's

&lt;---------- Has Spoon springs and their spring rates suck (ie. more understeer) and they lower the car more than 2". The understeer can be dialed out if you are willing to play with toe settings.

 

I would go with Tanabe , I know many people dont care for them, but I think there the best manufacturer out there. Personally I would just get the adjustable dampers. But if your looking for something cheeper, I would go with the NF, or GF drop springs.