Suspension questions.
Hey, everyone, should i go with a full type R suspension, and swaybars. or go with H and R oe sports, with koni's and mugen sway's. oh, if mugen makes a spring that lowers just a little bit i would really consider them as well.
This has been discussed quite a few times in the past and has been becomming a more frequently asked question.
I believe that non R owners will benefit more from an aftermarket spring/shock combo than they will from just the R springs/shocks. Although the R springs lower slightly more than the rest of the integra family and the shocks are slightly more stiff to compensate for that increased spring rate, they are not the biggest factor that promote the R's great handling. The R has a reinforced subframe along with an LSD (Limited Slip Differential) and the rear swaybar everyone is getting (22mm).
What would be a better choice for you and one that will probably cost the same amount if you buy right, as well as perform well would be to get an aftermarket spring/shock combo. The first step in deciding what shock/spring to get is to decide what you will be using the car for (ie.. daily driver/once in a while drag run, daily driver/track driving such as auto-x'ing....etc.). By thinking in advance as to what the car will be used for, you can not only optimize your suspension to fit your needs, but by doing this you can save money as well.
There are many choices of shocks (Koni, Bilstein..etc) as well as spring, and since you want the OE sports i'm sure you know you will be getting roughly a 2" drop so another spring to choose from would be the Eibach Sportlines which would give you that drop.
Before I get into any more, please tell me what you want to do with the car that way I can avoid recommending a setup that will shake the fillings out of your teeth
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I believe that non R owners will benefit more from an aftermarket spring/shock combo than they will from just the R springs/shocks. Although the R springs lower slightly more than the rest of the integra family and the shocks are slightly more stiff to compensate for that increased spring rate, they are not the biggest factor that promote the R's great handling. The R has a reinforced subframe along with an LSD (Limited Slip Differential) and the rear swaybar everyone is getting (22mm).
What would be a better choice for you and one that will probably cost the same amount if you buy right, as well as perform well would be to get an aftermarket spring/shock combo. The first step in deciding what shock/spring to get is to decide what you will be using the car for (ie.. daily driver/once in a while drag run, daily driver/track driving such as auto-x'ing....etc.). By thinking in advance as to what the car will be used for, you can not only optimize your suspension to fit your needs, but by doing this you can save money as well.
There are many choices of shocks (Koni, Bilstein..etc) as well as spring, and since you want the OE sports i'm sure you know you will be getting roughly a 2" drop so another spring to choose from would be the Eibach Sportlines which would give you that drop.
Before I get into any more, please tell me what you want to do with the car that way I can avoid recommending a setup that will shake the fillings out of your teeth
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KONI's all the way. You will never regret it. It's so nice having them set to FIRM (feels like a bitch of an Indy car) on the way to your girl's house, then taking 30 seconds to turn them two turns to somewhere in the middle. So Nice. So Nice.
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great answers I love all the opinions..Can't go wrong w/ better handling .....whos that avatar gs-r916 she is hot..lemme guess..she's your girl..how about you post a bigger pic in the anything goes forum..
I was asking about the OE sports, i dont like the slammed look, But i use my car daily, as an all purpose car, We go on "spirited" drives on very twisty roads, drag every now and then. and im trying to get auto x started here. so, as you can see the car is a true all purpose car. hope this helps some of your recomendations. thanks.
Just do koni yellows only at this point. (just one recommendation...)
Reasons:
1) height adjustment-- appearance seems important to you, you can get a slight drop with these shocks
2) adjustable performance-- as mentioned, you can soften or stiffen each shock as you want with minimal effort
3) compatibility-- Koni's will work fine with just about any suspension you decide to go with later. They can be even be re-valved to somewhat hard-core racing shocks if the car eventually becomes a dedicated track toy with high spring rates
4) autocross reasons-- if you haven't done intake/headers or any other mods besides exhaust, shocks are allowable in stock class for autocrossing. If you are really going to try autocrossing, be aware that you might get hooked by this addictive hobby. (It ain't called the go-fast crack pipe for nothing, and once you stop screwing around on the street, it can be a lot more potent.) If your car is a GS-R, you will have a pretty competitive vehicle in G Stock once the 2002 reclassification moves the WRX and the ITR out of the class.
Downside:
1) cost..
2) doesn't satisfy the "must modify the car" urge very well..
If you do decide to autocross, and get hooked.. spend your money on you and seat time and a school if you can, rather than on the car.. it is a much better investment, and will make you faster in the long run. Besides, driver improvements continue even after you switch cars.
With Koni' Yellows and tire pressure, you have a good amount of adjustment available to manage car balance and rotation.. plenty to learn with. As you learn, you'll get a better idea of what you want.
Reasons:
1) height adjustment-- appearance seems important to you, you can get a slight drop with these shocks
2) adjustable performance-- as mentioned, you can soften or stiffen each shock as you want with minimal effort
3) compatibility-- Koni's will work fine with just about any suspension you decide to go with later. They can be even be re-valved to somewhat hard-core racing shocks if the car eventually becomes a dedicated track toy with high spring rates
4) autocross reasons-- if you haven't done intake/headers or any other mods besides exhaust, shocks are allowable in stock class for autocrossing. If you are really going to try autocrossing, be aware that you might get hooked by this addictive hobby. (It ain't called the go-fast crack pipe for nothing, and once you stop screwing around on the street, it can be a lot more potent.) If your car is a GS-R, you will have a pretty competitive vehicle in G Stock once the 2002 reclassification moves the WRX and the ITR out of the class.
Downside:
1) cost..
2) doesn't satisfy the "must modify the car" urge very well..
If you do decide to autocross, and get hooked.. spend your money on you and seat time and a school if you can, rather than on the car.. it is a much better investment, and will make you faster in the long run. Besides, driver improvements continue even after you switch cars.
With Koni' Yellows and tire pressure, you have a good amount of adjustment available to manage car balance and rotation.. plenty to learn with. As you learn, you'll get a better idea of what you want.
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