I have a 96 Accord Lx with roughly 95,000 miles on it. Right now all I have is an AEM cai as i just started modding my car, however, I'm considering some different things. I realize that accords last about 300,000 miles when driven by grandma that only takes it out of the garage on sundays for church. What i'm curious of is if i'm better off doing an h22 swap or modding my current engine. I'm about to add an AEM cam gear to it, only because i got it for dirt cheap. (anyone know how much it normally costs to get this installed? [i'm a noob obviously]) Also, money is a factor here as I don't have much of it to blow. The ideal thing would be to get an h22, turbo it, and do everything imaginable, but that's not realistic for me right now. I appreciate any comments on this. thanks.

 

yeah i hear the H22 isnt the ideal engine for turbo, correct me if im wrong, but i hear the h23 is better. I've seen turbo set ups on the stock accord engine, but if i were you i would save money for an H22 swap, and then once you have the money decide if it really worth it.

 

keep your engine since it doesnt have that many miles and get your regular bolts ons then maybe a camshaft and some tuning. also some nitrous wouldnt be a bad idea.

 

What kind of work should be done to maybe add a 75 shot of nitrous...I don't want to be ruining my engine later on down the line. Also, my car is an automatic. The bolt on's I've considered adding are: Catback exhaust, dc headers, aem pulleys, new plugs and wires, o2 sensors all around, brembo rotors...and some others that i can't think of right now. Thanks for the quick responses guys.

Nick

 

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retard your timing, colder spark plugs, tuning.

 

H22 swap will be your best bet for a starting point. For just about anything. An h23 would be nice and everything for turbo....but only if you can get it DIRT cheap. Don't waste time on the F22, I mean, I'm not saying it can't be done - not at all, plenty of people have - it's just the money issue... and to a small extent reliability (making 200hp with an F series vs. the same with an H22 is going to be no contest for reliability).

- Nathan

 

When you say h23, do you mean h23a1 or h23a4, because i've found that the h23a1 stock has 160 hp, 30 or so less than the h22a1 and h23a4. Also I read somewhere that the h23 is auto tranny only (hard to believe). Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thanks.

 

well it doesnt really matter if the h23 had autos only anyways, you could mate any h series tranny to it, and i dont know for sure about this, but any f series tranny as well. oh and i think the h23 only havin an auto is bullcrap, cuz the h23 comes in the SI prelude doesnt it? and ive never heard of a auto SI. and if there is, oh man, what is this world commin to?

 

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I read something on some other accord forum about it, but I figured it wasn't true. Very hard to believe. Anyone know a good source for h23's at a decent price?

 

alright...any h22, h23, or f22 transmission will bolt up to any h22, h23 or f22 block...also, whoever said the f22 is not reliable boosted does not know what they are talking about...the h22 uses 10.6:1 pistons (jdm) or 10.4:1 (usdm)...the f22 on the other hand is only using 8.8:1 compression pistons, making it much much much more reliable for boost...also, the h23 did come with a 5 speed transmission...and the h23 would be your optimum motor to boost in stock form...it has 9:1 compression pistons from the factor, 2.3 litres of displacement, and two cams...the h22 just has too much compression to be reliable when turbocharged...

 

i've heard some mentionings of a dsm turbo kit for under $1000 for the f22...any comments about that. Thanks again for helping me out everybody. Sorry for bein' such a noob :-)

 

yeah it's probably the most bang for your buck...i'd do it if it worked for my car, but unfortunately it doesn't...do some research on it though before you get started...

 

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well it depends on where you get your parts and stuff...remember your going to need the...turbo, manifold, downpipe, oil lines, bov, piping, gauges and some type of fuel mangement.

 

of your choices, an h22 swap would be ideal for you since you said money is an issue, you can get a complete h22 swap for probaly around 2k, but if you do want boost, an h23 swap would be better.

 

I have a friend with a 96 Accord LX coupe and was considering the H22 turbo way, I'll be sure to send him to this link so that can read up on the H23. Thanks

 

h22a &gt; h23

unless they built to the max, motors of similiar displacement have ultimately the same power potential, thats just physics

 

greddy evo exhaust is on the way. bought from fellow HT'er SuperOrb. Great guy and great communication. The order of business will be first regular old 100,000 mile tune up (timing belt, plugs, wires, o2 sensors, fluid change, etc. [anything recommended let me know]), aem cam gear, then the exhaust.

 

dose the f22b1 and the b2 both have the same compression ratio.........8.8:1 is really great for a turbo.......how much boost are u guys running on stock internals on the f22 series......some one once told me tha a stock motor could only take 8lbs before blowing head gaskets........

 

people have run as much as 10-11 psi locally before experiencing problems with internals... most from the use of cheap fuel management and no tuning.

 

anybody know where i can get a decent price on a 5spd swap for my car in the dfw area?...