Clutch Pedal Height
I was wondering if anyone has found the clutch pedal in the 5th Gen Prelude to sit a bit high and the travel too long.
I've been in a number of cars, Integra, Mustang GT, Miata, Mercedes C230 and I found the clutch to be more sensible in all of those cars. I especially like the clutch in the Miata, its nice and short. The Mustang isn't bad either, except that its stiff as hell. The Integra's is similar to my car, except that it doesnt travel as far.
Anyway, from what I've seen I dont know if there's anything that can be done about it.
But I'm curious to know if anyone's encountered this, and if they've been able to safetly do anything about it.
Or does it just come down to simple experience? I just have to get a better feel for the clutch?
This isn't that serious a thing, and I tend to think it just comes down to practice. But I was curious to get people's impressions about it.
I've been in a number of cars, Integra, Mustang GT, Miata, Mercedes C230 and I found the clutch to be more sensible in all of those cars. I especially like the clutch in the Miata, its nice and short. The Mustang isn't bad either, except that its stiff as hell. The Integra's is similar to my car, except that it doesnt travel as far.
Anyway, from what I've seen I dont know if there's anything that can be done about it.
But I'm curious to know if anyone's encountered this, and if they've been able to safetly do anything about it.
Or does it just come down to simple experience? I just have to get a better feel for the clutch?
This isn't that serious a thing, and I tend to think it just comes down to practice. But I was curious to get people's impressions about it.
I've recently aquired a 5g and im only now getting used to the clutch, it is high but i think you'll get used to it.
I would like to know if anyone has altered the height with or without problems...
I would like to know if anyone has altered the height with or without problems...
The clutch pedal in many cars does not need to travel as far as it does. You could replace the clutch stop - currently a little (1/4" tall, 1" round) bumper on the floor. Pull it out (literally), then go to Home Depot or whatever and use your imagination in the hardware section, starting with a 3/8" x 1" long bolt. I can take pics of mine, cost less than $3.
Clutch pedal height, don't think it's adjustable. I'll check next time I'm down there.
Al
Clutch pedal height, don't think it's adjustable. I'll check next time I'm down there.
Al
I wondered the same thing and was told that the height isn't adjustable 'cos it's a hydralic clutch--whatever that implies.
I bought my 5g new, and from the moment I test drove it till now, I thought the clutch blew chunks. Too damn mushy (i.e. the engagement point). The travel is about the same as my old EG (95 civic si), but that old clutch (also stock) seemed to have more bite/feel.
I bought my 5g new, and from the moment I test drove it till now, I thought the clutch blew chunks. Too damn mushy (i.e. the engagement point). The travel is about the same as my old EG (95 civic si), but that old clutch (also stock) seemed to have more bite/feel.
Hydraulic means it's like your brakes - you are pressurizing fluid at one end (master cylinder) through a tube/hose to a slave cylinder to actuate it.
Yes, there is an adjustment for height directly on the shaft from the master cylinder. There is a locknut on the shaft; once loosened, you should be able to rotate the shaft to raise or lower the pedal. Be aware that this will also affect the 'free play' - that last inch or so of a clutch pedal's travel that has to be there to ensure the clutch is not being disengaged. Adjusting it may also affect the clutch interlock switch (clutch must be disengaged for starter to operate), and the clutch switch. The interlock switch is horizontal, the other is diagonal toward the rear of the car, above the clutch pedal pivot. I had to adjust my interlock when I installed my clutch stop.
As far as mushiness, the clutch fluid needs to be changed occasionally, and Honda has a 'damper' in the clutch hydraulic system that may contribute to its' feel (or lack of).
HTH, Al
Yes, there is an adjustment for height directly on the shaft from the master cylinder. There is a locknut on the shaft; once loosened, you should be able to rotate the shaft to raise or lower the pedal. Be aware that this will also affect the 'free play' - that last inch or so of a clutch pedal's travel that has to be there to ensure the clutch is not being disengaged. Adjusting it may also affect the clutch interlock switch (clutch must be disengaged for starter to operate), and the clutch switch. The interlock switch is horizontal, the other is diagonal toward the rear of the car, above the clutch pedal pivot. I had to adjust my interlock when I installed my clutch stop.
As far as mushiness, the clutch fluid needs to be changed occasionally, and Honda has a 'damper' in the clutch hydraulic system that may contribute to its' feel (or lack of).
HTH, Al
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by al_r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hydraulic means it's like your brakes - you are pressurizing fluid at one end (master cylinder) through a tube/hose to a slave cylinder to actuate it.
Yes, there is an adjustment for height directly on the shaft from the master cylinder. There is a locknut on the shaft; once loosened, you should be able to rotate the shaft to raise or lower the pedal. Be aware that this will also affect the 'free play' - that last inch or so of a clutch pedal's travel that has to be there to ensure the clutch is not being disengaged. Adjusting it may also affect the clutch interlock switch (clutch must be disengaged for starter to operate), and the clutch switch. The interlock switch is horizontal, the other is diagonal toward the rear of the car, above the clutch pedal pivot. I had to adjust my interlock when I installed my clutch stop.
As far as mushiness, the clutch fluid needs to be changed occasionally, and Honda has a 'damper' in the clutch hydraulic system that may contribute to its' feel (or lack of).
HTH, Al</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a lot of useful info dood, thanks!
I'll talk to my mechanic about doing something about that 'damper' when I go in for my 60k.
FYI: I knew what hydralic meant, it just didn't make sense to me why they would tell me that the height isn't adjustable because of it (I guess whoever told me was wrong).
Yes, there is an adjustment for height directly on the shaft from the master cylinder. There is a locknut on the shaft; once loosened, you should be able to rotate the shaft to raise or lower the pedal. Be aware that this will also affect the 'free play' - that last inch or so of a clutch pedal's travel that has to be there to ensure the clutch is not being disengaged. Adjusting it may also affect the clutch interlock switch (clutch must be disengaged for starter to operate), and the clutch switch. The interlock switch is horizontal, the other is diagonal toward the rear of the car, above the clutch pedal pivot. I had to adjust my interlock when I installed my clutch stop.
As far as mushiness, the clutch fluid needs to be changed occasionally, and Honda has a 'damper' in the clutch hydraulic system that may contribute to its' feel (or lack of).
HTH, Al</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a lot of useful info dood, thanks!
I'll talk to my mechanic about doing something about that 'damper' when I go in for my 60k.FYI: I knew what hydralic meant, it just didn't make sense to me why they would tell me that the height isn't adjustable because of it (I guess whoever told me was wrong).
I would imagine most hydraulic clutch pedals are not height adjustable, so don't wail on 'em too bad... OTOH, they may have been referring to the play, in which case they're correct. Ask your mechanic what the damper does, never seen one in a clutch (or brake ) system b4.
Al
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