hey guys, im replacing the clutch on my single cam crapper, but the bolt(s) in the wheel hub for the axles will NOT come loose! ive stood on one end of a breaker bar while my friend stood on the end of a piece of 1/4 inch steel wedged inbetween the wheels studs. AND IT DIDNT EVEN BUDGE!! id like to get back on the road ASAP so ifyou guys have had similar problems or know any trick, anything would be helpful as of right now!

many thanks,
jeremy

 

Did you unstake the nut? I broke 2 1/2" breaher bars trying to get mine off. The only way I got them off was to buy a 1/2" impact wrench w/625 lb ft of torque. They came right off.

 

If it's the 32mm nut your reffering to, I would suggest taking it to your local repair shop and asking them to hit it with a high torque impact... I broke 2 1/2" breaker bars (they were craftsman, it's okay) before I took it down the street to a wheel shop. I asked the guy workin' on a car in the bay if he could hook me up. It worked great, and when I got back home I was able to remove it with my 1/2" rachet. I tipped the guy $5. don't know why I mentioned that. Also make sure you bend out the end of the nut so it isn't lodged in the little grove of the axle.

 

put the wheel back on, now try.

BTW my cheap air compress and impact only has problems with 36mm Accord axle nuts.

 

heat up the bolt then turn it. just use a propane torch from home depot. it worked for me

 

I have a 5 foot cast iron breaker bar (purchased from Home Depots' plumbing section) that has not failed me yet. 5feet is pretty long, don't need much more leverage than that.

Use a 1/2 inch rachet w/ this breaker bar and you should have no problems. I have also used this breaker bar w/ the removal of my engine's crank pulley bolt and that was effortless.

 

haha we JUST had that problem.. 100lb impact wrench did'nt do it.. so i'm gonna bring it to a shop across the street.

 

its torqued to 132ft/lbs i believe, what you need to do is:

- remove the wheel
- tap out the dimple in the spindle nut
- remove the center cap on the wheel
- put the wheel back on the car and lower the car
- now loosen the nut ;D

or just use a powerful impact gun

 

here's another way. I use this sometimes to get the crank pulley bolt off.

Lube the nut up with some penetrating solvent, or some wd40.

Have a friend hold the brakes, attach your breaker bar, and hit the bar about mid way down with a good sized mallet. A couple good solid blows should loosen it up, but you'll need a tight fit and a super sturdy (preferrably short) breaker bar.

GL

 

I've never had any problems with mine.

I just use a 3-4 ft extension on my socket wrench and it works everytime..

 

yea, i went and rented a 1 inch drive impact wrench (rated at 590 ft/lbs torque!!) but i couldnt find a socket for it that didnt have to be ordered (and ones that did were 50+ dollars! ). so i got pissed and tried again with my breaker bar with a 4 ft pipe on it. the trick was to not have your friend on the piece of metal on the other end, but it have it wedged to the ground. so after strategically placing a 1/2 inch piece of steel angle iron inbetween the lugs, it came loose. stupid little bastard. but its off and my clutch replacement journey continues... thanks for the responses.

 

Another way you could have done it was to just remove the axle from the tranny itself and let them hang from the hub. Thats what I did. Much easier.

 

you dont need to pull off the axle nut just take off the bolts that hold the lca and you will be able to swing the axle out.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by salbaje &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont need to pull off the axle nut just take off the bolts that hold the lca and you will be able to swing the axle out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes that is what we did after having my friends dad who weights into close to 300+ lbs try to break the bolt off w/ a breaker bar.. it didnt budge.. we removed the lca and let the axles chill.. total pain in the ****.. ive never seen a bolt on that tight..

 

bring to the local shop, their gun will probably take it right off.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG2 SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If it's the 32mm nut your reffering to, I would suggest taking it to your local repair shop and asking them to hit it with a high torque impact... I broke 2 1/2" breaker bars (they were craftsman, it's okay) before I took it down the street to a wheel shop. I asked the guy workin' on a car in the bay if he could hook me up. It worked great, and when I got back home I was able to remove it with my 1/2" rachet. I tipped the guy $5. don't know why I mentioned that. Also make sure you bend out the end of the nut so it isn't lodged in the little grove of the axle.

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this also was my method... minus a five dollar tip! lol....plus a 6 pack

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2camsaam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 5 foot cast iron breaker bar (purchased from Home Depots' plumbing section) that has not failed me yet. 5feet is pretty long, don't need much more leverage than that.

Use a 1/2 inch rachet w/ this breaker bar and you should have no problems. I have also used this breaker bar w/ the removal of my engine's crank pulley bolt and that was effortless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the winner is...

A much cheaper way is to get a plain old 5' piece of 1" pipe from home depot for about $5. go to autozone, borrow the 32mm socket and get their cheapo 1/2 breaker bar, unstake the nut and do the , mechanical advantage thing like 2camsaam said.

A 5' lever w/your scrawny 150lbs is 750 ft-lbs and it will bust that nut and the crank nut as well. If 5' isn't long enough get a 6' piece of pipe. You aren't going to hurt anything - Honda designed those nuts to not come off so when you're through, torque the NEW ones to specs.

 

Impact is the easiest way to go, whether you use a hammer and a breaker or an impact gun.

I've had an accord, sitting on the ground, wheels on, with the center cap off, and I was able to lift the tire off the ground with a snap-on breaker bar and the bar from one of my hydraulic jacks. If you can't impact, just take it to a shop and have a tech loosen it up with a powerful air gun.

 

mmmm
Well I know your problem. I had an axle nut that wouldnt come off.
First I broke 2 tools. THe 32mm SNAPPED in half, we replaced it and tried again
This time the rachet snapped in half.
bitch.
I took it to modacar and my friend took the impact gun to it.
Didnt come off

So. we cut the axle nut in half and it then was off.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caveman74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heat up the bolt then turn it. just use a propane torch from home depot. it worked for me</TD></TR></TABLE>

that should only be used as a last resort... the heat form the torch can ruin the wheel bearings

 

impact gun + wd40 or pb blaster

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redrum eg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">impact gun + wd40 or pb blaster </TD></TR></TABLE>

all u so-called mechanics that recommend impacts, which electrics are you using??? realistically for the guy that's pulling axles in his garage... if you don't have a substantial (big-***) impact wrench and a compressor that puts out 5-6scfm@120 psi you're pissin in the wind.

just use a bigger lever, don't waste your money at rentElectricImpactRus.