installed used fmax kit on my 98 accord. So far so good, came with a 4.5 psi spring so until i get a boost controller its pretty weak. However I have run it to 6K with no problems with just the MF2 and additional injectors with no problems. I need to install the MSD Boost Timing Master Before I get a controller and some gauges. I have a helms and the MSD instructions, however I still am not clear on how to hook it up and how it will work. I would appreciate any help. It is kinda strange because the coil is built into the distributor, I just cant get from the schematic how to hook it up.

The strut bar ??? this is pretty f&^ked up... i got a neuspeed front upper off e bay. it looks great and all....but i cant get it on. I know it is severely simple. But it just doesnt fit. I take off the two nuts at the top of my strut and attempt to line it up but it is about 1-2cm too long. I went to the neuspeed site to make sure it wasnt for a v6 , but the part numbers are the same. I started to bend the studs outward a little ..but that isnt too good of an idea. The only think i can think of is that my car was stressed at some point to where the body did indeed flex...and actually stayed just a slight bit off. I may be crazy, but i think the only way to get this thing on is to use a jack( im thinking the trunk jack) and some 4x4's to push the towers(whatever you wanna call it) out and then bolt it on. This is one of the strangest things i have run across....especially since i bought is used and it does appear to have been installed on another accord. SO WTF. (my apologies if you wasted too much time reading this extremely long post and now feel eight times stupiderer for having done so)

 

MSD BTM is not for our cars man. It came with my kit but it doesn't hook up to the distributor. Its old tech that doesn't work wiht the 6th gen's dist. But my mechanic was able to hook it up to the TDC sensor on the crank case...who knows if that works... I went to 6 mechanics and all of them said it would work with the car.

My Bar was like that, you just gotta hammer or shove that thing on there....

 

has anyone else ran normal psi with just fuel management. Thing about a 6th gen is you cant retard your timing. it is not adjustable.

 

for the strut bar, try jacking the front wheels off the ground.

 

got the strut bar in with minimal hammering. i am getting my turboxs mbc tomorrow-ish, also getting boost and a/f guage on the ish. so i dont think i will boost up too high without some form of ignition control. i know of a guy who runs 9psi on stock with an fmu but i dont know if he has retarded timing. need info

 

to get the strut bar on you raise up the front end.. i.e. jack it up.. why would you want a strut bar that just easily fit on.. it wouldnt work as well as one that had a little xtra length for my stiffness in turning...secondly it is imposibble to run botht the MF-2 and the MSD BTM on a 6th gen accord. .. i have the FMAX kit and both those pieces need to be run off the ignition coil... however, if you do that then you will fry the MF-2 b/c the BTM sends constant high voltage through there.. however i called MSD and they said that it should not fry the MF2 but FMAX says it does.. so im not takin the chance.. i rather have the fuel.. and if im detonation which i iddi... i upped the fuel to compensate

 

I am confused. If F-Max says that the MSD BTM and the MF2 used together will fry the MF2, why would they sell both pieces together as part of their kit? And if the MSD BTM won't work on 6th gen accords, why does F-Max include it?

I'm close to ordering an F-Max kit for my 6th gen and I'm very interested in this issue... the MF2 and BTM are the reasons I want the F-Max vs. others or custom...

 

actually if you talk to FMAX they'll recommend the Ideal headgasket over the BTM ... but you have to remember this package is not just for the Accord .. its for numerous cars ... so they ahve the option of havin the BTM or the HG... i chose the BTM and then realized i couldnt use both.. MSD says it will not fry the MF2 but im not takin the chances... i tried hookin the MF2 to the crank positioning sensor b/c the accords dont have a crank speed sensor.. but it didnt work.. you have to use the RPM signal from the coil... thus goodbye to the BTM.. i have one for sale if anyone wants it.. i installed it and then realized i oculdnt use so i uninstalled it... never used

 

yeah i am a little bummed from having this thing and not being able to use it. however.. i have been told by more than one person now that you can boost to reasonable levels without ignition control. I will be getting gauges and turbo xs mbc this week and imo gunna try to run 8 or 9 psi. unfortunately. no wideband. just a autometer a/f and boost gauge.

 

any of u guys selling your msd btm???

 

yea me

 

seriously...no need for a/f gauge...it's just a pretty sight unless you get a wideband a/f...

as far as ignition, it's really not neessary for low boost...

also, fmu and checkvalve/missing link will work...but i would look into something else for fuel managament...i.e. hondata

 

oh, nevermind, hondata is not applicable...since you have 98...

i have 99 with turbo, i'm seriously thinking about aem ems...only if i could find a tuner though...


on the happy side, i did toast my friend's 95 eclipse gst with 14b...i was running at 10psi and he was running at 15psi...good old accord just pulls and pulls at 3rd...he couldn't catch up...so, there is potential for accords...just have to get it all pieced together...good luck

 

Do any of you boosted Accord owners have retarded timing?

 

For the strut bar, your car has to be on a level surface. Or do what Drag-On said, which is jack up the front of the car.

 

once again.. i got the strut bar on.

as for retarted timing. it is not adjustable. it is controlled by the ecu. if it is off..replace the ecu/pcm. thats what the helms says

 

For future reference, all you have to do is jack one side of the front/rear of the car where you're installing the strut tower bar. I don't understand how jacking the whole front end of the car would allow the struts to come in closer to each other. But jacking one side will allow the struts to flex in a little more to allow clearance to install that strut bar. Hope you notice some benefits of the strut bar because I can't really on my car.

 

So the MSD-BTM is worthless on our cars? What can we do to retard timing then except for the expensive standalones.