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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 10:43 AM
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If I were to put spec b's, cam gears, retainers and valve springs in my car. What other minimum mods would I need to do for it to run well? I already have Mugen Header, Mugen Exhaust, AEM CAI and test pipe.

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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 10:43 AM
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VAFC............
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 10:47 AM
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ECU upgrade or progammable ECU system might be recommended.
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 10:53 AM
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Is the ECU necessary immediately? or is that something I can do later once I want to tune it better?

Thanks so much for your help guys!
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 10:54 AM
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VAFC............


The bigger cams like the JDM spec headers better than the USDM versions, for the obvious reason (larger dia. collector).
So, even with your present Mugen (USDM?) setup ....
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 10:55 AM
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Is the ECU necessary immediately? or is that something I can do later once I want to tune it better?

Thanks so much for your help guys!
No, the ECU is not an immediate requirement.
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 10:55 AM
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ECU is not needed.
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 10:59 AM
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ECU is not needed.
yeah what he said, the Vafc will be fine for now, down the road pick up a hondata or power FC, if you have someone to tune them.

hmm, could have saved you a few dollars about 6 months ago good luck!

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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 10:59 AM
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Ok so basically all I need to get them installed is a V-AFC?
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 11:00 AM
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Yeah I know Bryan but I didnt have the $$ a few months ago....
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 11:01 AM
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yup.

and a 2.5" collector header, as ed (zygspeed) has hinted...

If you have a jdm mugen header, vafc is all you need for the intended mods.

Join the family.

*OT: y'know honda should really have toda, spoon, and mugen products in their service shops... I mean at this rate, they should be honda optional equipment! All itr's will eventually have them, right?
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 11:04 AM
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*OT: y'know honda should really have toda, spoon, and mugen products in their service shops... I mean at this rate, they should be honda optional equipment! All itr's will eventually have them, right?
Lets keep this on a need to know basis. hehehe
As in, not everybody needs to know what's under the hood!
P.S. Looks like Comptech has the H/A OEM market (dealer installed warranty and all).
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 11:58 AM
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On a semi-related note, hopefully soon I will begin my ITR project:

Spec C's, TODA valvesprings, Portflow retainers, Spoon cam gears, TODA ITB's, TODA header, 2.5" exhaust, Power FC.

I'm still unsure as to what kind of fuel system I will need. Any suggestions? With these power mods and suspension and brakes by Spoon, I'll teach those pesky M3 drivers a thing or two on the track
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:00 PM
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00 Type R Chick...I thought you were selling your car?
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:02 PM
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Trying to keep her. I have got too much time, love, money into it to give her up so soon.

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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:03 PM
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Trying to keep her. I have got too much time, love, money into it to give her up so soon.
I hear ya, I was surprised when I saw your post about selling it...good to hear you're keeping it...
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:19 PM
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On a semi-related note, hopefully soon I will begin my ITR project:

Spec C's, TODA valvesprings, Portflow retainers, Spoon cam gears, TODA ITB's, TODA header, 2.5" exhaust, Power FC.

I'm still unsure as to what kind of fuel system I will need. Any suggestions? With these power mods and suspension and brakes by Spoon, I'll teach those pesky M3 drivers a thing or two on the track
You're gonna need higher compression pistons(12:1 or more!). Specifically what do you mean when you want suggestions for fuel systems? You'll probably want to go with a higher volume fuel pump. Power FC is nice but I'd rather go with a hondata. 310 injectors
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:19 PM
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ME TOO
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:26 PM
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I think I'm gonna add "Gurl" or "Chick" to my username so more people will check out my posts!


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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:27 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:30 PM
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An unrelated note! I'm picking up Apexi VAFC 4 $230 in Hong Kong. Pretty CHEAP eh?
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:41 PM
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I think I'm gonna add "Gurl" or "Chick" to my username so more people will check out my posts!
I think her popularity on the board grew dramatically after she posted a few pics.
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:52 PM
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Lets keep this on a need to know basis. hehehe
As in, not everybody needs to know what's under the hood!
P.S. Looks like Comptech has the H/A OEM market (dealer installed warranty and all).
That's what I'm sayin!

To quote Jack: "F-Comptech!"

I'd rather get dealer installed warranty from toda, mugen, and spoon products!

Oh so sad that comptech has that spot in dealer stores!


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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:58 PM
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Maybe the reason Comptech is OK w/dealers is that it might just be considered a light mod, whereas the rest of the "good" stuff gets ya throwing codes and stuff (for example w/properly tuned spec B's).
After all dealers still have to do stuff that's emissions legal (for the most part), whereas the rest of "US" don't always make that a priority.

So much for the serious stuff, when we doing Deal's Gap?
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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 02:19 PM
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Spend the money and get the appropriate ECU upgrade.

I am currently using Yoshio's, and although I had to tune (fine) the fuel, the basic ignition and fuel curves are much better suited to the Spec B's than the stock ECu and program is.

This is why he sells the cams WITH the ECU program. A VAFC will only allow for fine tuning of the fuel... not ignition.

Hope this helps...
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