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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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Default My mids cut out when the bass is up

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Recently I upgraded to an eclipse 120X4 and am running it to my type r's. Everything is fine at low volumes. When I turn it up, and the bass is hitting hard (bp1200.1 to 2 eclipse 15's) the highs start to cut out on the bass drum beats, then at higher volumes they don't make sound for entire bass guitar notes, and then at higher volumes the highs' sound just fizzles out until I turn it back down. When I take the remote wire off of the high amp the bass sounds fine. and hen I take the remote wire off of the bass amp the highs sounds fine.

Things I have tried: rewiring the highs' amp directly to the battery. turning all of the gains way down and all of the gains way up. I tried running the signal from the head unit, directly to the sub amp and then tried taking the signal from my EQ, and then from the low output on my crossover. There is no differance with the car on and off. And the highs' amp power is tounching the wire that goes to the alternator on the battery pole.

I really have no clue as to what is causing this.

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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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What is that, I have never heard that expresion before
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Torridcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is that, I have never heard that expresion before</TD></TR></TABLE>

The flexible piece of wire between the terminals on the speaker and the voice coil.
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Old Sep 21, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Maybe I am missing something but I don't think that would affect all of the speakers. Can someone explain to me why that would be the problem and how I can fix it.
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Old Sep 21, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Torridcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe I am missing something but I don't think that would affect all of the speakers. Can someone explain to me why that would be the problem and how I can fix it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


That is correct. Nothing to do with your problem, unless speaker is blown, which not sounding like it is by your description.


However, i had some trouble following your initial post.
Have you tried lower your bass settings on your deck itself; it "cuts out" as a protection so they dont fully blow. Kinda like the protection light on amps. Sometimes they just blow.

It seems that maybe you have too much power for your speakers and they cant handle such power. What kind of system do you have and what are you running?


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Old Sep 21, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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My system is in my initial post. When the bass is off I can push the 4 highs to levels beyond my pain tolerance with out distortion it is only with the bass on high that the highs distort<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by underESTIMATED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">



Have you tried lower your bass settings on your deck itself; it "cuts out" as a protection so they dont fully blow. Kinda like the protection light on amps. Sometimes they just blow.

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I addressed this problem when raising all of the gains on the amps. Then I thought that the deck would not need to push the signals as hard. It didn't work. Also I tried to run the signal off of the pre-outs that go to my EQ and then through Crossover, so the voltage sent to each amp from the crossover should be the same. IF this was the problem then the bass would clip along with the highs
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Old Sep 21, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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1) make sure that there is proper size power wire supplying the amps

2) try adjusting the crossovers on the amp (basic settings would be around 80hz for the hpf and also the lpf)

3) just because the gains "can" be turned all the way up, it isn't recomended to do that

things to check would be the condition of each speaker (they should be around 4 ohms each), proper 12volts and especially ground wire, adust the gains no only on the amp but the crossover (almost sounds like you are clipping the amp)

goodluck with finding your audio problems
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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I think I might have found the problem. Right now I am at school, but I do have the gains on the Crossover turned all the way up. That could be it, the crossover could be what is distorting the sound that is going to the amps. I can't wait to get home and try it. Would you recomend that the amps gain be as low as possible? That way I would have to turn the head unit way up. Or should I leave the gains on the amps at like half? I hope this works
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Torridcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think I might have found the problem. Right now I am at school, but I do have the gains on the Crossover turned all the way up. That could be it, the crossover could be what is distorting the sound that is going to the amps. I can't wait to get home and try it. Would you recomend that the amps gain be as low as possible? That way I would have to turn the head unit way up. Or should I leave the gains on the amps at like half? I hope this works</TD></TR></TABLE>


Gain should be set with the volume @ 3/4 of the way up on the head unit and then lower the gain until you hear no/lil distortion.

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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Thanks to your suggestion I fixed this problem THANK GOD. But I ran into a different problem. New post time thanks guys.
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