New Honda Civic Type-R (ep3)
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Re: (f1nal zeros)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f1nal zeros »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rear lights look like ***, but the front is not that bad. The interior is kind of cool thou. I like the whole red and black trim going on.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the front looks like those cheapo aftermarket projector lights you buy from APC for civics ..and accords ....
the front looks like those cheapo aftermarket projector lights you buy from APC for civics ..and accords ....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tsunami_zc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the front looks like those cheapo aftermarket projector lights you buy from APC for civics ..and accords .... </TD></TR></TABLE>
You know you want them steve.hhahaha.
the front looks like those cheapo aftermarket projector lights you buy from APC for civics ..and accords ....
</TD></TR></TABLE>You know you want them steve.hhahaha.
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Re: (b20vtec17)
here some more detailed info
A sharper 3 door and higher quality 5 door give Honda’s most popular car fresh appeal
3 Door
New look front and rear styling
Significant ride, handling and steering improvements
Upgraded "1.6 Sport" 3 door
Improved engine response / acceleration for Type-R
Brighter projector-style headlamps with wider beam width
Trip mpg display / outside temperature gauge (except Type-R)
Enlarged boot capacity through adoption of spacesaver spare wheel
5 Door
New look front and rear styling
More comfort and quietness (designed for "class above" refinement)
New Type S with VSA 5-door model – available April 2004
Brighter projector-style headlamps with wider beam width
Door mirror mounted side indicator repeaters
More supportive front seats with new trim materials
Luminous instrumentation and steering wheel operated audio controls
Trip mpg display / outside temperature
Enlarged boot capacity through adoption of spacesaver spare wheel
Right now the Honda Civic is easily the most successful British-built Japanese-branded car in the UK. Two years since it was launched, the current model still leads the pack for interior space, fuel efficiency and its combination of occupant and pedestrian safety. And then there’s the Type-R version…
Yes it would be wrong for Honda to change the fundamentals of such an innovative design. But with the imminent arrival of the next generation Volkswagen Golf and Vauxhall Astra, there’s a challenge to be met…..
Honda has responded with a raft of revisions that take the 2004 Civic up to a higher plane. The net result is a Civic that looks much fresher and more distinctive, is more responsive and more fun to drive, and which is significantly more refined.
More sporty appearance
All models gain sharper frontal styling for a more distinctive, sporty look. The 3 door now features a mesh grille, while the 5 door has a new three bar grille in place of the single slat grille; both gain a more prominent ‘H’ mark. The front bumper now has a wider intake with lines that sweep up into the wheel arch.
All Civics get new projector style headlamps of either two-light or three-light design, depending on model. As well as enriching the car’s appearance, the new units achieve both higher intensity and wider beam width on main beam as well as dip, than the units fitted to the current Civic.
Capturing some of the visual excitement of the Type-R, the Sport grade uses the new front spoiler design from its more powerful sibling together with a unique colour front grille, 3-light projector headlamps, side sill garnish, 205/55 R16 tyres and newly designed 5-stud 16 inch alloy wheels.
Top grade models also get door mirror-mounted side indicators first introduced in the new Accord range. Both stylish and practical, they consist of a strip of LEDs for added visibility when turning. Body colour side sills add further definition to the flanks.
At the rear, 5 door models get a new tailgate pressing and rear bumper with a styling motif mirroring that at the front, and a tailgate spoiler is added. Tail-light clusters on both 3 and 5 door models have been restyled.
A more sporty drive
Within their size classes, the Civic’s petrol and diesel engines were already at the top of the class for performance, so the line up remains unchanged.
Extensive fine-tuning of the toe control link MacPherson strut / reactive link double wishbone suspension and EPS power steering system for both 3 and 5 door models endow the 2004 Civic with much crisper handling.
All models gain stiffer steering and suspension mounting points, a new variable ratio steering rack, increased steering caster angle – and recalibrated spring, damper and anti-roll bar settings. Values are specific for 3 and 5 door models, as they are for the Sport, Type S and Type-R variants.
The aim of these changes is principally to improve on-centre steering feel at high speed, steering response and linearity, while simultaneously also improving ride comfort and smoothness.
As before 15 in wheels are fitted to the majority of the range, however both the Sport and the Type S VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist), have 16 in rims.
And a more comfortable one
Improving ride quality and reducing noise levels has been a top priority for Honda engineers working on the 04 year Civic. Upgraded and more extensive noise insulation materials, as well as a front subframe dynamic damper have been employed to quell noise and vibration from all sources. Particular attention has been paid to reducing wind and road noise, engine noise at full throttle – and even the stone chipping sound experienced when driving over loose surfaces.
The net result is a Civic which exhibits "class above" refinement, being superior to direct competitors and as smooth and quiet as many vehicles from the D sector.
The inside story:
Changes to the spacious cabins have been aimed at delivering a lighter and more elegant ambience with careful co-ordination of colours and textures. Seats are finished in a new fabric and their shape has been improved for greater comfort. There is now more chrome-finished detailing, matched to a new centre console colour of Magnum Silver (applied to specific grades).
On Executive grades a new titanium leather interior with dark titanium centre console is also available. Other upgrades include a rear seat centre cup holder incorporated in the back of the armrest and a larger sized seat back pocket. Civic
3 door models are equipped with a sports steering wheel while 5 door models feature a new 4-spoke steering wheel with built in audio controls.
The Sport grade is distinguished with red seat inserts and red door panels (matched with black) and a steering wheel similar to that of the Type-R.
All Civic 5 door models now have self illuminated meters similar to those of the Honda Accord and Civic IMA, while all 3 door models now feature white dials. Most Civics now feature a combined trip / fuel consumption mpg display with an outdoor temperature readout.
All UK Civics now feature a larger boot volume thanks to the provision of a Spacesaver spare wheel throughout the range. Actual volume goes up by 55 litres for 3 door models and 45 litres for the 5 door, or 21% and 14% respectively.
Revised Type-R:
The exciting and iconic Civic Type-R doesn’t go unchanged and new for 2004 are a lighter flywheel and clutch assembly. Reducing inertia makes the engine more responsive and coincidentally shaves 0.2 secs off the 0-62 mph time (now 6.6 sec). There are also new brake callipers that incorporate the Type-R logo for added exclusivity.
Door mirror-mounted indicators, a front spoiler similar to that on Sport models, a front grille unique to Type-R, and three light blue projector style headlamps complete the picture. Inside, there are now red seat inserts and door panels, as well as red headrest aperture, to further emphasise the car’s out and out sporty nature.
The Type R benefits considerably from the NVH (noise vibration and harshness) tuning applied to the whole range.
Sales of the 2004 Civic Type-R begin in February 2004.
New Type S with VSA:
A new top-of-the-range Civic 5 door model will be available from April 2004. As the name suggests, this 2.0 litre i-VTEC engined sports model incorporates Vehicle Stability Assist, and is designed to counteract understeer and oversteer tendencies through a combination of individual wheel braking and engine torque reduction. The Teves supplied system also incorporates a Drive By Wire (DBW) throttle and Traction Control.
The VSA model has several other dynamic attributes. These include a close ratio gearbox with 6% "shorter" fourth and fifth ratios to benefit acceleration, bigger (16 in) alloy wheels shod with 205/55-Series tyres and correspondingly bigger ventilated front brake discs.
Safety and Environment:
When the current Civic range was first launched, it set new standards with its ability to combine excellent occupant protection with an unprecedented level of pedestrian safety. Specifically it combined a 4 star Euro NCAP occupant safety rating with a 3 star pedestrian result – a feat which even now, only one other manufacturer has been able to emulate.
Whether petrol or diesel-powered, the Civic continues to set the standard for low fuel consumption (= low CO2 emissions) by which other compact hatchbacks are judged.
New model line up and equipment:
Please use the following link:
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...36353
The table below shows the revised Civic line up for 2004 together with a brief specification and equipment summary. Prices will be announced nearer to the November 2003 launch date.
A sharper 3 door and higher quality 5 door give Honda’s most popular car fresh appeal
3 Door
New look front and rear styling
Significant ride, handling and steering improvements
Upgraded "1.6 Sport" 3 door
Improved engine response / acceleration for Type-R
Brighter projector-style headlamps with wider beam width
Trip mpg display / outside temperature gauge (except Type-R)
Enlarged boot capacity through adoption of spacesaver spare wheel
5 Door
New look front and rear styling
More comfort and quietness (designed for "class above" refinement)
New Type S with VSA 5-door model – available April 2004
Brighter projector-style headlamps with wider beam width
Door mirror mounted side indicator repeaters
More supportive front seats with new trim materials
Luminous instrumentation and steering wheel operated audio controls
Trip mpg display / outside temperature
Enlarged boot capacity through adoption of spacesaver spare wheel
Right now the Honda Civic is easily the most successful British-built Japanese-branded car in the UK. Two years since it was launched, the current model still leads the pack for interior space, fuel efficiency and its combination of occupant and pedestrian safety. And then there’s the Type-R version…
Yes it would be wrong for Honda to change the fundamentals of such an innovative design. But with the imminent arrival of the next generation Volkswagen Golf and Vauxhall Astra, there’s a challenge to be met…..
Honda has responded with a raft of revisions that take the 2004 Civic up to a higher plane. The net result is a Civic that looks much fresher and more distinctive, is more responsive and more fun to drive, and which is significantly more refined.
More sporty appearance
All models gain sharper frontal styling for a more distinctive, sporty look. The 3 door now features a mesh grille, while the 5 door has a new three bar grille in place of the single slat grille; both gain a more prominent ‘H’ mark. The front bumper now has a wider intake with lines that sweep up into the wheel arch.
All Civics get new projector style headlamps of either two-light or three-light design, depending on model. As well as enriching the car’s appearance, the new units achieve both higher intensity and wider beam width on main beam as well as dip, than the units fitted to the current Civic.
Capturing some of the visual excitement of the Type-R, the Sport grade uses the new front spoiler design from its more powerful sibling together with a unique colour front grille, 3-light projector headlamps, side sill garnish, 205/55 R16 tyres and newly designed 5-stud 16 inch alloy wheels.
Top grade models also get door mirror-mounted side indicators first introduced in the new Accord range. Both stylish and practical, they consist of a strip of LEDs for added visibility when turning. Body colour side sills add further definition to the flanks.
At the rear, 5 door models get a new tailgate pressing and rear bumper with a styling motif mirroring that at the front, and a tailgate spoiler is added. Tail-light clusters on both 3 and 5 door models have been restyled.
A more sporty drive
Within their size classes, the Civic’s petrol and diesel engines were already at the top of the class for performance, so the line up remains unchanged.
Extensive fine-tuning of the toe control link MacPherson strut / reactive link double wishbone suspension and EPS power steering system for both 3 and 5 door models endow the 2004 Civic with much crisper handling.
All models gain stiffer steering and suspension mounting points, a new variable ratio steering rack, increased steering caster angle – and recalibrated spring, damper and anti-roll bar settings. Values are specific for 3 and 5 door models, as they are for the Sport, Type S and Type-R variants.
The aim of these changes is principally to improve on-centre steering feel at high speed, steering response and linearity, while simultaneously also improving ride comfort and smoothness.
As before 15 in wheels are fitted to the majority of the range, however both the Sport and the Type S VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist), have 16 in rims.
And a more comfortable one
Improving ride quality and reducing noise levels has been a top priority for Honda engineers working on the 04 year Civic. Upgraded and more extensive noise insulation materials, as well as a front subframe dynamic damper have been employed to quell noise and vibration from all sources. Particular attention has been paid to reducing wind and road noise, engine noise at full throttle – and even the stone chipping sound experienced when driving over loose surfaces.
The net result is a Civic which exhibits "class above" refinement, being superior to direct competitors and as smooth and quiet as many vehicles from the D sector.
The inside story:
Changes to the spacious cabins have been aimed at delivering a lighter and more elegant ambience with careful co-ordination of colours and textures. Seats are finished in a new fabric and their shape has been improved for greater comfort. There is now more chrome-finished detailing, matched to a new centre console colour of Magnum Silver (applied to specific grades).
On Executive grades a new titanium leather interior with dark titanium centre console is also available. Other upgrades include a rear seat centre cup holder incorporated in the back of the armrest and a larger sized seat back pocket. Civic
3 door models are equipped with a sports steering wheel while 5 door models feature a new 4-spoke steering wheel with built in audio controls.
The Sport grade is distinguished with red seat inserts and red door panels (matched with black) and a steering wheel similar to that of the Type-R.
All Civic 5 door models now have self illuminated meters similar to those of the Honda Accord and Civic IMA, while all 3 door models now feature white dials. Most Civics now feature a combined trip / fuel consumption mpg display with an outdoor temperature readout.
All UK Civics now feature a larger boot volume thanks to the provision of a Spacesaver spare wheel throughout the range. Actual volume goes up by 55 litres for 3 door models and 45 litres for the 5 door, or 21% and 14% respectively.
Revised Type-R:
The exciting and iconic Civic Type-R doesn’t go unchanged and new for 2004 are a lighter flywheel and clutch assembly. Reducing inertia makes the engine more responsive and coincidentally shaves 0.2 secs off the 0-62 mph time (now 6.6 sec). There are also new brake callipers that incorporate the Type-R logo for added exclusivity.
Door mirror-mounted indicators, a front spoiler similar to that on Sport models, a front grille unique to Type-R, and three light blue projector style headlamps complete the picture. Inside, there are now red seat inserts and door panels, as well as red headrest aperture, to further emphasise the car’s out and out sporty nature.
The Type R benefits considerably from the NVH (noise vibration and harshness) tuning applied to the whole range.
Sales of the 2004 Civic Type-R begin in February 2004.
New Type S with VSA:
A new top-of-the-range Civic 5 door model will be available from April 2004. As the name suggests, this 2.0 litre i-VTEC engined sports model incorporates Vehicle Stability Assist, and is designed to counteract understeer and oversteer tendencies through a combination of individual wheel braking and engine torque reduction. The Teves supplied system also incorporates a Drive By Wire (DBW) throttle and Traction Control.
The VSA model has several other dynamic attributes. These include a close ratio gearbox with 6% "shorter" fourth and fifth ratios to benefit acceleration, bigger (16 in) alloy wheels shod with 205/55-Series tyres and correspondingly bigger ventilated front brake discs.
Safety and Environment:
When the current Civic range was first launched, it set new standards with its ability to combine excellent occupant protection with an unprecedented level of pedestrian safety. Specifically it combined a 4 star Euro NCAP occupant safety rating with a 3 star pedestrian result – a feat which even now, only one other manufacturer has been able to emulate.
Whether petrol or diesel-powered, the Civic continues to set the standard for low fuel consumption (= low CO2 emissions) by which other compact hatchbacks are judged.
New model line up and equipment:
Please use the following link:
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...36353
The table below shows the revised Civic line up for 2004 together with a brief specification and equipment summary. Prices will be announced nearer to the November 2003 launch date.
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Re: (f1nal zeros)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f1nal zeros »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You know you want them steve.hhahaha.
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yeah ....so i can give them to you for your b-day ....i know how bad to drool over them when browsing thru the APC catalog
You know you want them steve.hhahaha.
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yeah ....so i can give them to you for your b-day ....i know how bad to drool over them when browsing thru the APC catalog
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From: NOVA
Re: (f1nal zeros)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f1nal zeros »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rear lights look like ***, but the front is not that bad. The interior is kind of cool thou. I like the whole red and black trim going on.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I dunno man. I kinda likem. But you guys are right on the headlights. Those DO look like @ss.
I dunno man. I kinda likem. But you guys are right on the headlights. Those DO look like @ss.
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From: la, CA, US
Re: New Honda Civic Type-R (tone*def)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tone*def »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who's designing 
onda these days???? i wanna kick HIS *** seriouse ****! 
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hahaa, thats what im saying
onda these days???? i wanna kick HIS *** seriouse ****! </TD></TR></TABLE>hahaa, thats what im saying
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From: N/A, RSX
Re: (f1nal zeros)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f1nal zeros »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rear lights look like ***, but the front is not that bad. The interior is kind of cool thou. I like the whole red and black trim going on.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes i would have to agree......
yes i would have to agree......
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From: Richmond, VA
Re: New Honda Civic Type-R (tone*def)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tone*def »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who's designing onda these days???? i wanna kick HIS *** seriouse ****!
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damn europeans
onda these days???? i wanna kick HIS *** seriouse ****! </TD></TR></TABLE>damn europeans
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From: usa
Re: New Honda Civic Type-R (Chris93Si)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris93Si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">headlights
taillights
seats w/ "Type R" logo
taking the little Union Jack off the hatch
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Um, the British version always had the Type-R logo on the seats and never had the Union Jack on the hatch.
taillights
seats w/ "Type R" logo
taking the little Union Jack off the hatch
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Um, the British version always had the Type-R logo on the seats and never had the Union Jack on the hatch.