which semi-popular road racing class allows the most modification on a Honda?

bored & thinking out loud.
i see all these aftermarket parts for Honda's. I see them used on drag strips. Isee them used at autocrosses. But, is there any road racing class that runs highly modified Honda's? I don't have my SCCA book in front of me, but i think the "GT" class allows extensive mods. Are Honda's competitive in this class? Is it a popular class? What other clubs? Nasa, H1?




Modified by aRg617 at 2:50 AM 8/30/2003

 

NASA has the SU, or Super Unlimited classes for heavy mods. i think there is SU-1, SU-2, SU-3, based on displacement.

only thing is, there usually aren't too many SUs at a race. could get a little boring, from a competition standpoint....

 

yeah, that seems to be the problem.
it looks like a hybrid H1 car would be the way to go for a competitive class while still being able to build something. it's probably the way i'm going to go.
But GT (SCCA) & SU (NASA) seem to be the only claases that allow extensive engine/chassis work.
with all of the aftermarket support for Honda's, i'm surprised that the ECHC hasn't created 1 or 2 more classes for drivers who want to go a step (or 2 or 3) further with their car. seem welding, wild cams, headwork, fabricated parts......etc.

seeing fully "built" cars at the auto-x's & drag strip, i would love to see them at the road racing tracks as well.

 

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Cams and headwork are allowed in H1. But the reason you dont see it is because thats not what ECHC is about. Its a grassroots, fun series. And believe me, these guys are breaking enough **** at 215 whp... do you think they really want 300?

 

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An HU class was "attempted" last year. However, the pain felt because of it hardly makes it worth it. Long story, but more classes is not a good thing, IMO. I could see some "rearrangement", but additions wouldn't be a good idea.

 

what about the ITE class in SCCA? I know you run with Vipers and turbo cars and such but it would certainly be competition!!

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actually NASA NorthCal attempted HU back in 1996. it was WAY ahead of its times.

 

I heard HU was back in 2004? No? Dirty rumour?

 

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Honda-Challenge was what I was speaking of.

 

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Thats a region-by-region basis, and usually its to give cars that were built for other series to compete with scca.

 

Some SCCA regions also run Super Production (SPU, for smaller-engined cars) but as RJ mentioned, it is not nationally recognized. It ends up being a catch-all class but some regions (NE?) have more than a few hybrid Hondas running.

EDIT - SPU isn't even "semi" popular, frankly....

 

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We do have ITE up here. I think that's what most of them run in. I know Yasu (ATS) runs his civic up here in the NER region. I imagine he's in the same class that most of the hybrid hondas would run in. I think he's in ITE but he might be in SPU. Not sure on that.

s

 

so a built 2.0L integra (non-factory honda bottom end) would run in SU???. most likely SU-1 cuz this car isnt worth $30K in mods.

 

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huh? Yasu runs an EG hatch. Don't know what class.

s

 

sorry for the confusion, was just asking with SU a build integra bored to 2.0L would run.


Honda Challenge requires a factory honda bottom end. by bottom end has JE and eagle in it. and bored out.