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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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can i get a 4ohm load from a dual 4 ohm sub?

the amp i have for the sub puts out the most at 4 ohms, but my sub is dual 4. so , i dunno
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 06:17 AM
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 06:40 AM
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no.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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damn

what should i do then, since the amp puts most at 4. what happens if i wire the sub to 2 ohms and hook it to the amp thats running 4 ohms?
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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"since the amp puts most at 4."

Is this amp even bridgable ?
If it is then 2 ohm or lower should yeild the highest output....
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"what happens if i wire the sub to 2 ohms and hook it to the amp thats running 4 ohms?"

the impedace you show the amp is going to be two ohms.
If the amp is not bridgable, then its prolly gonna get a bit hot, and maybe let the magic smoke out.

low impedace = high current.

Youre safer to run it at 8, but then your not giving it much current at all.

best bet is buy a 2 ohm stable amp, and be done with it.



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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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ok the amp is a rockford 500s OVER 500 Watts+ Bridged Mono @ 4 Ohms (250watts x 2 @2 ohms)
could i run one channel to each vc at 2 ohms ? or would that make some problems.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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If that model amp. is 2 ohm stable, you should not have any prob.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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The trouble is you can't run one channel to each voice coil at 2 ohms. If you run one channel to each voice coil you won't be getting the most power out of your amp since each channel will be running at 4 ohms.
If you bridge the amp and connect the sub in parallel, this will mean you are running the amp at 1 ohm which it most likely wouldn't be able to handle.
If you have a big enough 4 channel amp you could try bridging each channel and running it off that but the better idea would be to get a 2 ohm stable mono amp.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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arg! do you have any suggestions about which amps i should get. im tryin to keep my budget low and kinda tryin to stick w/ rockford but whatever you guys think.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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o yeh, my friend had this same problem before, what he did was he had bridged the amp, but had 2 wires coming out of the pos and neg, then he hooked those to each vc. and it was good. cuz wouldnt both be running at 4 ohms?
or what would happen, would i break or somethin
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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It sounds like your friend was running a bridged amp with the sub in parallel which would result in the amp running at 1 ohm.
This is fine if the amp is 1 ohm stable but most aren't so it may result in a blown amp.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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he was runnin the same amp (and it is 4 ohm bridged) , but to a dual 4 ohm L7. he did bridge it but he had 2 wires coming out of the pos and 2 out of the neg. +- to one vc and +- to the other. he never blew anything.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 03:40 AM
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If he has bridged it it will have only two speaker wires coming from the terminals, one from the +ve of one channel and one form the -ve of the other, unless this amp has some different feature I don't know about.
If he had 4 wires coming from it then it will be running 4 ohms per channel which the amp will handle fine.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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yeh normally there would only be 2 wires, but he just stuck 2 wires in each terminal.

but that would handle fine, cuz each would be at 4 ohms right.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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Aah, i see what you mean, so he had two wires under the same terminal when bridged?
By bridging the amp, it has to run at 2 ohms but when he runs 4 wires like that it will put the strain of a one ohm load on the amp. You said it is going fine so maybe the amp can handle 1 ohm loads.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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hmm i dunno. i guess id just have to hook mine up like that or something and just see what happens.

kinda bad, and could be a waste of money. but o well
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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if u have the punch 500s amp it a 4ohm mono amp
but u can run it at 2 ohms mono just don t crank it all the way with too much disortion
also u can add a fan it will work fine

remeber rockford amps r current hungry so get a extra battery
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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remeber rockford amps r current hungry so get a extra battery</TD></TR></TABLE>

ha yeh seriously, with my old 12s and one rockford 500s amp i drained a day old battery to .02 volts in one burp. haha i was funny cuz i was at school and was kinda showin off to my friend, cuz my 12s were louder than his 2 12in L7s on a jbl 1200.1 it was great! aahh
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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Also make sure you set your head unit or amp to MONO so that you don't have a different signal going to each voice coil. This will ruin your sub.
If the amp has separated left and right gain/crossover controls then make sure they are set EXACTLY the same for each side.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 04:16 AM
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o well i just found out that they have these subs in dual 2 ohm, so i guess ill try to find those for cheap and wire them in series so i can run the amp mono. that will work right.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 04:27 AM
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Yes, that will work a lot better if you're just wiring one.
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