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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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ok i've been through 3 oil pan gaskets and my oil pan still leaks!!! i do exactly as the hayes book says 1/8 inch of rtv on both sides of the gasket and tighten in a spiral fashion, that is what i do and still no go. it will not leak for a couple of days but it always start to leak. and its not like drip drip, if i look under my car i can see oil on my cat, axles, everywhere. is pressure building up and causing it to blow out between the oil pan and block? need help PLEASE!!!!!
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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cmon guys i need your help bad i gone though 3 quarts of oil in a week!!! and i dont want to spend $100 on a new oil pan if that is not the problem, anyone?
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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R U SURE UR OIL PANGASKET IS LEAKING?
ALL THREE OIL PAN CAN BE WORP.

BETTER ADD DYE AND BLACK LIGHT IT!
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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no i have bought three oil pan gaskets not oil pans and no they dont leak they spray oil everywhere!! all over my exhuast, axles, etc.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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TAKE THE OIL PAN OUT AND MAKE SURE ITS FLAT
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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What are you torquing the bolts down to ?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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pounded the oip pan out to make sure it was flat and i dont have a torque wrench that will go down to 10 ft ilbs so i get them finger tight and 1/2 turn on the socket. someone told me i might have to much pressure which is causing it to push the gasket out, what could cause that amount of pressure?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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Well don't use your torque wrench, get then finger tight, then tighten then with a regular ratchet until there tight.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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just replace the oil pan and be through with it
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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but how do i know it is the oil pan? i don't think if there is a leak oil should be "spraying" all over the underside of my car.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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Are you sure the leak is coming from the oil pan ? Is your oil filter on good ? Did you change it and the old gasket get stuck on there.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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yeah im pretty sure its from the oil pan, there still is some leakage on the pan. the filter is a week old so it cant be that, does anyone know what could cause so much pressure to push out a oil pan gasket? i put super weatherstrip adheasive on there this time and it still seeps through. somebody has to know what is going on
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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Well it sounds to me like your tightening it down to hard, and if you tighten it down to much 1 time, then the oil pan is not level. So I would take it off and see how that looks.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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well this is my forth gasket do you think i could have tightened all four down to tight? all i do is finger tighten the 1/2 turn on a socket wrench.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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also it only leaks in the back of the oil pan, and i tighten it the same all the way around
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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Are you sure you did every thing correct ? If so then it sounds like your oil pan is not straight any more. Sounds like you might need a new one.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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would you use any kind of atv or anything like that?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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I use Honda Bond, would I use it on the oil pan ? Yes, with out a doubt I would.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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You NEED a torque wrench that will work for this. 1/2 turn is not 9 ft pounds I'll tell you that.

Clean the surfaces too.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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trust me dude the surfaces are sooooooooooooooo clean, how much are inch pound torque wrenches?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btothe3rdDegree &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">trust me dude the surfaces are sooooooooooooooo clean, how much are inch pound torque wrenches?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Like around 80 bucks, ok so the surface is clean, it still sounds like your pan is warped in some spots.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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so what your saying is buy a inch pound torque wrench and a new oil pan so around 180 bucks worth
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 05:10 PM
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No, I'm saying take the old pan off inspect it. See if you can level the surface back out. If not find a new oil pan. And tighten it, you don't need a torque wrench to do so, just make it like had tight using a ratchet. Make sure the oil is leaking out of the pan though.


Modified by 90blackcrx at 8:24 PM 8/31/2003
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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Are you sure that the stuff that is sprayed all over the bottom of the car is oil. My CV joints are going out on both sides and they spray this brown oily greese all over the side of the oil pan and every where else under the engine. It almost looks as if the greese is dirty oil. I'm just throwing out some ideas.

When I helped my friend put in his oil pan on his Impreza, we used acetone to clean the bottom of the block and the top of the oil pan. We also use black rtv from our local auto parts store.
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