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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 05:16 AM
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I want to get the R repainted cuz of chips and dents and two long key marks on the rear fender. My friend works at a shop, and said they could do the painting, But it would have to be color matched paint. She said they take the paint code, and the computer tells them what to mix to get the same result.

She also said they have to put hardeners in it cuz they cant do it at the 500 degree F like the factory does. But they told me it will be the same, just with hardeners it it, which they said I would never see...

Can anyone tell me for sure if their would be a difference in appearance or not? I know the shop does quality work, and am not worried about the paint job fading prematurely or anything like that, just worried that the color wont be the same.

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Dave


...I know I should prolly go to the cosmetic forum, but I figure fellow type R owners will understand better then they would!
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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To an **** person, aftermarket paint will never match the OEM paint. Period.

The only way around it is to paint the whole car, so at least the whole car is in same color and same paint.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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Light colors are easier to match than metallics. Not sure about dark colors. Red always seems to be tough, but not an issue w/ ITRs.

A top notch body shop should be able to get a 98+% factory quality finish. They should also have a drying booth if they're top notch to cure the paint.

Some aftermarket painters can exceed factory quality, but not at anything close to a reasonable price (I've heard $5000 and up).

Despite having a friend work there, are you really sure they are good enough?

Take a look at I-Car to find Gold Class shops (it's a start, but not a guarantee).
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 06:58 AM
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The body shop I took it to painted the whole car and it still doesn't match
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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no, not even if they blend it real well. Piston Honda, if they painted your whole car, what doesnt it match?
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 08:51 AM
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I've seen a local shop do a color match and blend onto a 92 red accord. To my untrained eye the car looked impeccable. There were no noticable differences between the freshly painted surfaces and the 11 year old rest of the car.

I would imagine that a competent body shop should be able to match your car well enough that you should have no complaints.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Thanks for the advice everyone. The way I understand it now is that No paint job after the initial paint job from the factory will be 100% factory color. But any competant shop will be able to get it soo close that noone would notice...As long as the whole car gets painted.

Im going to get the whole car done, just cuz i have little chips hear and there all over the body. So the whole car should match! I guess thats the most important thing right? other than quality work i guess.

thanks again for the advice. Much appreciated!
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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I have some insight on this topic. All paint is mixed through a computer system. All OEM colors are made of of many different tints. Some colors have what are called Alternates but the manufacture of the product sends Paint Chips to the bodyshop periodically to assure color match. If you are getting your whole car painted then color match should not be an issue. Remember though that plastic parts ( such as bumpers sideskirts and fiberglass spoliers ) rarely ever match the metal parts of the car so that sometimes throws people off. Phoenix Yellow is a tough color to match but if you are painting the whole car like I said earlier you should be fine. Type R blacks ( Flamenco Black Pearl and Nighthawk Black Pearl ) are also a little tough to match. So my thought is if the bodyshop is reputable and like almost all shops out there offers a lifetime warrenty on paintwork I say go for it and good luck.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Strange that your bodyshop isn't able to get the stock chroma-base paint and has to use their mixture. I took my front bumper cover to some crappy 1-day Paint place and they were able to use the stock paint (added $50 to the cost versus using their own mixture) and it came out great with the blue flakes (NBP) and all. Impossible to tell it was repainted.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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since we're talking about paint... what is the paint code for CW??
thanks
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 04:47 AM
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Default Re: Color matched paint...is it the same as factory paint? (00ITR725)

I had an accident w/ my pytype-r and had to repaint the whole car. We had a honda rep and a rep from ppg paint co come and look over the car and we colud not get the paint codes to match they were slightly different
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00ITR725 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the advice everyone. The way I understand it now is that No paint job after the initial paint job from the factory will be 100% factory color. But any competant shop will be able to get it soo close that noone would notice...As long as the whole car gets painted.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A truly top-notch shop should be able to get it so close that no one would notice - even if you only have parts of the car painted, rather than the whole car.

But a truly top-notch shop will do the color matching by eye. Even if they have the measuring equipment to come up with a formulation to match, they can match it even closer by eye. The very best shops have people there who are experts, and they can match better than the technology can do.
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lankester &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had an accident w/ my pytype-r and had to repaint the whole car. We had a honda rep and a rep from ppg paint co come and look over the car and we colud not get the paint codes to match they were slightly different</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why would a Honda Rep and PPG Rep come just to look at a car that was in a accident? And why your car?

Isn't that what the insurance rep is for?
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