Ok kiddies got a q for you guys an gals.
what will it take to make a b16a hit 12s? how much cash?
what will it take to make a b18b turbo hit 12s?how much cash?

 

For a B16A that fast you're looking turbo. So however much for the motor, then however much to build it up, then however much to install the turbo. Cars run on money, not gas.

 

get a t88 on that there b16, and use a 200 shot to make up for the turbo lag. Then at 6000RPMs the turbo should start making some boost by then, turn off the nitrous and you should be golden!

 

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what will it take to make a b16a hit 12s? how much cash?
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Easiest answer..Drag or rev hard kit ..good driving and good tires..
$2500-$2700

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Easiest answer..Drag or rev hard kit..good driving..good tires..
$2500-$2700

 

K20!!

 

For an allmotor B16, you'll probably want so re-sleeve it to an 83-84mm, Run 12-12.5:1 CR, Get some portwork on the head, a good valvetrain and a set of big cams.

 

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thats what im doing, except for 85MM and B17 crank and rods.

with my crower 403s... im aiming for 215HP+

 

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thats what im doing, except for 85MM and B17 crank and rods.

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Using iron sleeves I hope..becuase its not a good idea to go past 82mm with stock sleeves..

85mm b16 with a b17 crank is like 2.0-2.1 liter..??

 

yeah.... its gonna be sleeved.

its a high 1.9L

i was going 2.1 with a deck plate, LS crank and custom rods....

but the 1.9L is SOOOOOOOOOO much easier work, and on my wallet.

basically off the shelf items with little work.

 

b18 turob. 12s easily

 

if it goes in a crx, wont take much. attention to thermal management and fuel/ignition maps goes a long way toward longevity.

 

Uh...it's a general rule. more power = less time = more money. So to break it down
"nice car" = $
"dang!" = $$
"dude, that's fast" = $$$
"OH %*%(#*@&%(~!!!!" = $$$$

Plus, when building engines, do quality, not price. And again, better quality = more $.

Also keep in mind speed/cars are an expensive hobby and an additction. You can't get enough (for most of us on HT) even with all the money in the world. You just can't. Once you build your 12sec car, you'll get bored and say "let's see if I can shave another second...and another...and another" and so on until you've maxed your car. Then you get less weight or a bigger engine, etc. So...although someone will give you a better estimate than me, this is just fair warning. I love my fellow builders...

 

its going to take alot more than just a simple turbo kit to get that car in the 12's

your going to need, a turbo kit, with a decent sized t3t4, a lsd, a good clutch, an enginemanagement system, boost controller, a few hours on the dyno, wideband (optional but id recommend it) and probably at least 10 psi maybe 12 and a nice set of slicks, a helmet, traction bars,

 

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your going to need, a turbo kit, with a decent sized t3t4, a lsd, a good clutch, an enginemanagement system, boost controller, a few hours on the dyno, wideband (optional but id recommend it) and probably at least 10 psi maybe 12 and a nice set of slicks, a helmet, traction bars, </TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh really?

Low 12's here w/ a very small Garrett Ta3107, An ACT street clutch(HD PP), Uberdata, no boost controller(just a watsegate spring), No dyno time just street tuning, no traction bars and only 9psi. Basically I just threw everything you said out the window . You are right about the slicks and the helmet though.

Phil

 

you think this kid can street tune his car? from what ive read so far, i doubt it,
for uberdata u need to throw in a obd1 conversion, i dont know how u got by with no traction bars, but i didnt have any room so thats why i included them in the list,

 

wushu/b16madman: B16/18 with bolt-on drag kit you can run 12s in your crx. providing the suspension and traction issues resolved.

and if doesnt then get an engine managment system. tune on the street trial and error or if you have access to dyno it would be easier.

you said 12's but you didnt say daily driven reliability. in this case build motor.

 

I've got about $8K sunk into my turbo B18A...I think a few hundred dollars more and I'll be hitting high 12's.

 

what did you spend 8k on just parts? or labor in that too? 8k would get me 11s with dyno tuning.

that much money for 12s is discouraging to me. lol

 

Parts including the swap plus welding and fabricating labor. I used premium parts on my turbo build.

 

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Yeh, that sounds about right. i kinda thought you meant with swap wasn't sure though.

 

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Wow!!! How close to the 12's are you? I guess mine cost so much less due to me fabricating most of my own parts and doing all of my own labor and tuning. I didn't spend anywhere near that but, If I added what I charge for labor I am sure it would be close.

Phil

 

Does nobody see that this thread is 3 years old?