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Old Aug 7, 2001 | 11:29 PM
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I over heard a couple of guy talking about header as they were looking at the lastest issue of SCC at Barnes & Nobles in West Covina. One dude was saying that the 4-1 was for high-end and 4-2-1 is much better for low-end and everyday uses. Then his friend said that there will be 4-3-1 coming out soon. It will be strong from low to high end. The smart one argued that such is not possible but his misinformed friend insisted that 4-3-1 will come out for sure; he saw it on the net. I think they are in high school or starting college. On the way home I told my wife about the conversation and she replied that it is not possible. No! she said what will you do with 1 extra exhaust port? I told her I have no idea but my car has (2) 3-1 header.
Will there be 4-3-1?

he he he

Mack
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 12:18 AM
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NOPE
probably just an idiot talking.
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 02:32 AM
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The kid was on Shrooms or something... Seeing double
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 04:01 AM
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sure... 4-3-1.. is that for a new inline 3 + 1 configuration???
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 06:43 AM
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4-3-1 would be a stupid configuration because 2 of the primaries would merge and 1 wouldn't. This would make the flow characteristics different between the cylinders.
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 07:55 AM
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What about a 4-8-5-3-1-2-1? What kind of gains could i see with this configuration?
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 08:00 AM
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Yeah, the flow would be crazy. I am sure it was someone that is talking out their ***.
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 08:53 AM
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3 cylinder turbo Sprint (Geo) manifold with the 4th tube for the dump pipe!!!
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 04:03 PM
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i'm waiting for my 4-4 header which leads to 4 separate exhausts and don't call it rice
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 06:45 PM
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hey, that B@N bookstore is close to where i live.

Jaysmy, you live in the area?
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Old Aug 8, 2001 | 06:48 PM
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Yeah, lol
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Old Dec 16, 2018 | 02:30 AM
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Default Re: Anyone heard of 4-3-1 header? (Cosworth)

Originally Posted by TypeC
4-3-1 would be a stupid configuration because 2 of the primaries would merge and 1 wouldn't. This would make the flow characteristics different between the cylinders.
Sorry about the thread bump... Interestingly, the 2011-present Ford Mustang does use a 4-3-1 header. In particular the use of a 4-3-1 header gives the Shelby GT350 it's unique offbeat sound, even though it has a flatplane crankshaft like a Honda or Ferrari. [Of course the regular Mustang GT sounds offbeat and uneven anyway, so the header doesn't make much difference there.]

The 4-3-1 header design seems to used for packaging reason, yet it doesn't seem to reduce performance all that much. A 4-3-1 header is quite an elegant way of making an unequal length header for inline-four (or V8) engines, and I'm surprised that no aftermarket companies sell them for Honda engines for owners who want a unique sound (albeit perhaps not the most optimal performance)!

Shelby GT350 4-3-1 header design:

Shelby GT350 4-3-1 header
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