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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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So installation of the cam gears begin.... I get everything off and now its time for the cam gears. I get the Todas on and realize that the 10mm bolts I have are a atad too long and are going to rub. I bought the extra bolts because I read where a lot of people have stripped the original ones. So I take off the Todas and realize that one is damaged/broke where the cam key goes... Take a look... sorry for the terrible quality of the digi cam, its the best I can do for a $100 unit...

What do I do now.........?




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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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ouch
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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going to have to re-tap that hole. which is easy, because it is alumanium...
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 02:20 PM
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were they new?
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">were they new?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Brand new....
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Toda crap out on me.............? :o (Ferrell)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ferrell &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What do I do now.........?
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call the person you bought it from (hopefully an authorized dealer) or call toda and tell them what happened

stuff breaks

and things could be worse
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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You are looking at the wrong thing. It failed where the cam key goes. It will require replacement or if you trust JB weld

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GraphiteAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">going to have to re-tap that hole. which is easy, because it is alumanium...</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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the same exact thig happened to my friend, thought id never see that happen to anyone else. id call toda if i were you
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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*drool* nice set!
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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Drill the bolt with a small bit, and use an easy out to back the bolt out.
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1b18cR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ouch </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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i had a new set of those before
sold them to someone
thats so weird
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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How the heck can it break at the cam key slot?

Were there two keys in there? Did you beat it on the cam? Pry it up when you took it off?

That is just too bizarre.

Yea, bolts break/strip etc.
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TodaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How the heck can it break at the cam key slot?

Were there two keys in there? Did you beat it on the cam? Pry it up when you took it off?

That is just too bizarre.

Yea, bolts break/strip etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have no idea?
Keys were in.
Didnt beat on cam.

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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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Weird how it broke the key part
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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First time I have seen that happen.. jeez..
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 02:07 AM
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did you use a impact gun to pull the cam gear thru? if so then the key probably moved back and up.and caused it to break
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 05:45 AM
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Toda cam gears are bad about "grabbing" the key, causing it to ride "up" and "out" the rear of the keyway in the camshaft. We have a "collection" of Toda cam gears that have the same "look" as the one pictured. When installing them, you have to press the rear of the key down with a srewdriver to make sure it doesn't scoot out the backside....
Toda needs to increase the dimensions of the keyway just a touch to allow for the thicknesss of the anodizing.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 06:06 AM
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After seeing the pictures, I say don't use it. It was worse than I expected. I would call Toda or the place you got them from and see if they would replace (which I doubt they would) or see if you could just buy one. Couldn't hurt. I know they are sold as a set but maybe in the particular situation they would sell a single one.

But I say don't use it, it's not worth the risk of damaging your head for a set of $300 cam gears. The cost of replacing the head later would be a lot more than replacing the cam gears now.

-PS. Host that **** on BS.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 06:18 AM
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I agree with Woofer on this one...

It looks like the cam gear was tightened down (to the cam) while the key was not set perfectly.

Ferrel, I feel for ya man. Those are nice cam gears and that sucks that it had to happen to you. I wish you the best.

-kenji
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 06:24 AM
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The above pics are 100% due to improper installation, NOT a defective product.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 06:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18CXr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The above pics are 100% due to improper installation, NOT a defective product.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes i agree

your fault...but try to get some free new ones....
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