would 270 hp and 200lbs of torque be out of reach for completely stock ls engine

 

No it isn't. But I think you'd only do one run and it blows up! Have a 100 Shot of NOS and do 15 pounds of boost. I guarantee you could make it but me and the mad scientist would have to repair you blowing the welds off of the manifolds....

Bro please....

 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

Yes You can make that power. On stock internals those numbers are very realistic....but unless you want to drag your car on the weekends......really 250WHP is more than enough....have you ever been in a WRX...fast and that's only approximately 200 to the wheels Your number one CONCERN is going to have to be fuel management AEM EMS, HONDATA, PFC. and your fuel delivery is another crucial concern. RC 550cc's with a Walbro 255lph intank fuel pump should suffice for fuel delivery...You could probably install an SX FPR/Paxton FPR that's boost dependant. GO SEARCH THE FI FORUM&gt;&gt;&gt;LOTS OF INFORMATION

The turbo hardware is the easy part. fuel management and tuning is the key to engine life.

 

1 word.... Cheesefrog.....

http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/cheezevsal.mpg

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On stock internals those numbers are very realistic....</TD></TR></TABLE> You could realistically make 400 whp on stock internals but you wouldnt want to...270 whp on an LS engine is quite optimistic on stock internals and being able to last more than a couple of days. thats about 150% increase over stock whp. You would have to be boosting around 15 lbs...not wise on a stock block. of course tuning and all comes to play but ive seen too many cases where even on 7-8 lbs and proper tuning, the ringlands/ rings/ pistons eventually go. (within months, not years)

 

cheesefrog blew his motor didnt he? also i hate those guys in the viper.. talk about hick!

 

"thats one badass mother ****** dude" lol

who is cheesefrog? ht? what was that guy running? awesome vid!

 

I don't think there is a chance in hell you'd make 400WHP on stock internals. 225WHP is about the most i think you could go. 400WHP would be almost 4x the stock horsepower, thats more than any supra or 03 cobra has ever made on stock internals. Do you still think the base model integra can do this?

To answer the original question, I think at 6lbs of boost, an LS motor would be very reliable, and pretty fast(mid 13s on street tires). Also, you want to see pics? of what? you asked how fast and reliable are they? do you want pics of an odometer?

EDIT: Cheesefrog is on HT, search for his name and you should find a list of mods somewhere. Its a DX with built motor, t3/60-1 turbo, and all the other expected goodies. That Viper runs a mid 10, if i remeber correctly, so i'm guessing Cheesefrog runs ~11.

 

Err his name on HT is Cheezefrog.

That is one stout *** hatch. I've been reading up on his car. The guy still has FULL INterior, Power Steering and A/C. Go fast in style y0!

I couldn't find specs on his hatch, but the only way anyone could b00st like that is with a closed deck block. I.E Dart, GE, Darton Sleeves.

There are no threads that he has created that indicate he has had motor failure.

Edit: Ok... I'll eat my own words this time. **** runs stock sleeves.
CheezeFrog (5:04 PM 7/20/2003): Try this one: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=411335 I'm running stock sleeves.

 

its not on this forum when he said his motor blew.. but maybe im just seeingthing i wanna see his set up again any1 has the link to it?


Modified by romeo619romeo at 5:18 PM 7/20/2003

 

To answer your question, yes you can make 270 on stock internals.

And yes, it can be reliable...your tuner will be able to specifically tell you the limitations of your motor when he/she pushes it. You wont be able to bolt on and boost to achieve those numbers safely...it will take the proper fuel management and a good way to control timing, fuel, etc such as Hondata to maximize potential and reliability.

 

I made 289 hp and 240 torque on a stock ls on 11 psi....

 

Do you have a dyno plot?

 

Not as reliable as stock, thats for sure.

 

wow, cheezfrog is inspiration

 

hell ya cheesefrog = right click save as

thats a badass video, if there are any more of him id like to see them

nothing like boost to smoke a viper

 

 

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There are acually hundreds of supra running stock internal that put down 700, 800, almost 900 hp

 

No those are very realistic goals, although you will need fuel management and a good tuner. My goal is 275/230 and then I'll go from there, ill be tuning with hondata

 

Ya, but the 2jzgte was overenginered to hell.