Car dranks, but wont start! HELP!
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Car dranks, but wont start! HELP!
OK, ill make it long and detailed. 
(Sorry, but i need help!)
car- 91 Teg RS
motor- i just rebuilt the WHOLE FREKIN MOTOR, pretty much new EVERYTHING!
LS block-B16a1 pistons, LS rods, total seal rings. new crank and rod bearings. B16a1 head, cleaned up w/ new valve guides, CTR intake cam GSR EX cam, B16a1 Tranny stock flywheel, clutch net clutch, B16a1 OBD 0 ECU. new 190 GPH fuel pump. New denso plugs, from a GSR, stock GSR plug wires. The only thing i didn't change was the cap n rotor. (i ordered the wrong one, but we are getting spark all the way to the plug, so...)
The car has been sitting for about a year with no motor in it. (That's how I got it) We drained the gas tank, and put in some 93.
OK, the deal- We dropped the motor in, and it started with minimal ease, but it sounded rough. After like 5 min. we heard a slight thumping noise. It was a loose #3 rod bolt! oops! (i guess the ARP bolts didn't seat all the way when i torqued it down) No damage, so I re checked the torque on the bottom end. all good in the hood.
The car then started right up, and the motor sounded great!
But there was a noise in the tranny. I changed the throw out before, so it must be the pilot barring. (DooH!)
So we take the tranny off , clutch n flywheel off, and change this frekin bearing.
The only thing we messed with while the tranny was off was the VTEC, and o2 wiring to the ECU.
So, we Put the tranny back on, the motor cranks, but wont start!!
We can hear the fuel pump, we have fuel all the way to the rail pressure is at 48, coil is good, spark to the plugs, we can hear compression, tried the stock LS ECU, dis connected the VTEC n 02 wires we put, checked the fuses, added more 93 from another station, dry gas...WTF!
It just cranks, and cranks. The motor sounds good, like it wants to start, but wont kick over. It sounds like no fuel, or no spark, but we have that. I didn't check the timing on the cams cuz i got lazy @ 1am, but i never touched the belt, we were just on the tranny side...
Thanks to whom ever read this long *** post, but I am dumbfounded. (or just dumb
Thanks for any help in advance,
Hank
(Sorry, but i need help!)car- 91 Teg RS
motor- i just rebuilt the WHOLE FREKIN MOTOR, pretty much new EVERYTHING!
LS block-B16a1 pistons, LS rods, total seal rings. new crank and rod bearings. B16a1 head, cleaned up w/ new valve guides, CTR intake cam GSR EX cam, B16a1 Tranny stock flywheel, clutch net clutch, B16a1 OBD 0 ECU. new 190 GPH fuel pump. New denso plugs, from a GSR, stock GSR plug wires. The only thing i didn't change was the cap n rotor. (i ordered the wrong one, but we are getting spark all the way to the plug, so...)
The car has been sitting for about a year with no motor in it. (That's how I got it) We drained the gas tank, and put in some 93.
OK, the deal- We dropped the motor in, and it started with minimal ease, but it sounded rough. After like 5 min. we heard a slight thumping noise. It was a loose #3 rod bolt! oops! (i guess the ARP bolts didn't seat all the way when i torqued it down) No damage, so I re checked the torque on the bottom end. all good in the hood.
The car then started right up, and the motor sounded great!
But there was a noise in the tranny. I changed the throw out before, so it must be the pilot barring. (DooH!)
So we take the tranny off , clutch n flywheel off, and change this frekin bearing.
The only thing we messed with while the tranny was off was the VTEC, and o2 wiring to the ECU.
So, we Put the tranny back on, the motor cranks, but wont start!!
We can hear the fuel pump, we have fuel all the way to the rail pressure is at 48, coil is good, spark to the plugs, we can hear compression, tried the stock LS ECU, dis connected the VTEC n 02 wires we put, checked the fuses, added more 93 from another station, dry gas...WTF!
It just cranks, and cranks. The motor sounds good, like it wants to start, but wont kick over. It sounds like no fuel, or no spark, but we have that. I didn't check the timing on the cams cuz i got lazy @ 1am, but i never touched the belt, we were just on the tranny side...
Thanks to whom ever read this long *** post, but I am dumbfounded. (or just dumb
Thanks for any help in advance,
Hank
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From: Austin, tx, usa
I am not an *******.
Who in the **** built your engine? If you did it that is one of the problems. I dont know you and your experiences with R&R. I'll tell you this much, have patience. How long is your spark when tested. long - bad: short - good.
Make sure your crank and cam(s) gears are all at TDC. Then make sure your first cyl piston is all the up and that your rotor is lined up with your #1 spk.plg. wire. ok. Make sure your wires are in correct firing order. Have you checked your injector pulses? Your fuel pressure. Main relay? Map sensor? Cam position sensor? There is a-lot more you can do to trouble shoot. Start with this stuff. Get you a digital volt meter that can test OHMS(resistance). Once again I'm not an ******* and would love to help. e-mail me
supraman_33@yahoo.com
and let me know.......
Who in the **** built your engine? If you did it that is one of the problems. I dont know you and your experiences with R&R. I'll tell you this much, have patience. How long is your spark when tested. long - bad: short - good.
Make sure your crank and cam(s) gears are all at TDC. Then make sure your first cyl piston is all the up and that your rotor is lined up with your #1 spk.plg. wire. ok. Make sure your wires are in correct firing order. Have you checked your injector pulses? Your fuel pressure. Main relay? Map sensor? Cam position sensor? There is a-lot more you can do to trouble shoot. Start with this stuff. Get you a digital volt meter that can test OHMS(resistance). Once again I'm not an ******* and would love to help. e-mail me
supraman_33@yahoo.com
and let me know.......
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