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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Default Ok PROBLEMS with GSR swap in 92 VX please!!!!!!!

Ok here's the situation. Don't know what the hell it is but I'll try to explain the best I can.

My friend and I got my b18c into my vx. We used the old vx wiring harness. Engine is in, no dash or cluster so I can't tell what codes are being thrown. Anyway we put the key in and turn it to the on position. That's when I hear a quick clicking or tapping type sound in the relay box on the drivers side floor. Sounds like it's also making a tapping in the rear under the gas tank or fuel pump?? It doesn't stop either until turned off. The vehicle also doesn't start yet I'm not sure what to do and I thought all the experience on this site should help. Anyway any suggestions ideas would help. We have checked all wiring and am pretty sure it's all correct. Haven't wired up the IAB and o2 sensors.

OH also if anyone know what the hell the black box in the engine bay against the firewall. It is in the very middle next to the charcoal canister lemme know if I need that. My buddies hatch witha b16 in it, he doesn't have this box, it's about 2x2 inches and almost and I think has 2 tubes coming out of it. Thanks guys I just want this damn car to start.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Ok PROBLEMS with GSR swap in 92 VX please!!!!!!! (bobbysteelz)

I don't know. You say all the wiring is correct that you know of. I would seriously try to get a cluster in the car and see what codes you are throwing. I wouldn't even want to drive my Hybrid w/o a cluster. Not only will you be clueless to what's going on with the motor, you won't know your speed, if motor is running hot, and what CEL codes you may be throwing.

maybe someone can tell you why the fuel pump won't shut off after a couple seconds

I can't even think of what 2" X 2" box you are referring to. I know I didn't add/remove the box you are talking about though.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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I know I'm just trying to get the god damn thing to start. If we can get it to start,.. then that's a start!! Anyway the dash and cluster goes in monday. My boy went on vacation so the project is on hold. Anyway the car isn't going to be on the road for another 2 weeks. Just whipping my truck 4 now. thanks bro appreciate the reply.

BTW - my damn digital camera fuc@#$ broke so I can't take a pic. Stupid HP 00' digital won't save to the CF card now

edit .. problem solved with the box.. thanks to everyone and anyone. H-T is a great place. I spend a few hours here a day. Good ppl here and almost 2 much info for the mind to hold..almost.



Modified by bobbysteelz at 10:48 PM 7/16/2003
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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Why don't you just take a total break from your project until Monday... after thedash and cluster go in? You don't want to **** anything up unnecessarily now, do you?
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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I'm not or anything but try the Tech forum you'll most probably get good answers there.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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yeah I know sorry bout the wrong forum but it seems like I get alot of help in here, but I will try.. thanks!

And yes it is on hold till monday.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Ok PROBLEMS with GSR swap in 92 VX please!!!!!!! (bobbysteelz)

Here's my bay before the GSR went in:



No black box on mine either
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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Well I guess I don't need it.. someone told me on the tech site it's a egr I'm wondering what it does..or did.


nice gloves..
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Ok PROBLEMS with GSR swap in 92 VX please!!!!!!! (bobbysteelz)

im almost positive its for the vx motor specially, i didn't hook mine up to my ls. didn't have any were too.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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Cool yeah I haven't seen it all night looked at alot of engine bay pics. Now for the other problem..


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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Ok PROBLEMS with GSR swap in 92 VX please!!!!!!! (bobbysteelz)

I right in the middle of my gsr swap in my 94 vx. Is this what you were talking about? Did you figure out what it is or if it is needed?







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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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Yup that is it. Did u take it out when u did ur swap?

edit I see ur in the middle 2. Well I got the engine in and I'm taking that thing out. It's not need 4 a GSR in the VX. I'm about 95% sure. Now I got a ticking sound I gotta take care of .. I tell ya.

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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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Hey u know what this is?? it has a connector to it that is just dangling around right now,.. no where to put it? Anyone?


Bump cuz I wanna know.. I have extra wires/plugs.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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Default Re: Ok PROBLEMS with GSR swap in 92 VX please!!!!!!! (bobbysteelz)

In that pic is the EGR valve. The GSR motor doesnt have one so you wont need it. Just disregard it. Good luck with the swap.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Ok PROBLEMS with GSR swap in 92 VX please!!!!!!! (dwnthehatch)

i used to have that black box there , but when i got my car rewired
the guy took it off, i guess i dont need it , my car runs fine
no cel's idle perfect !

I see that your starting your swap GL on it
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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The black box is for emissions control...take it out and chunk it, just leave the plug going to it dangling. The other picture is of the EGR vavle...also leave that plug dangling [the plug on the harness is right next to the VTEC plugs]. I just got done with my LS swap into my VX and had a problem VERY similar to yours. When hitting the ignition to the START position, the relays would click all over the car, and the radiator fan would start running. Dash lights were staying on in the car even with the key completely out of it! What it turned out to be was a bad connection on my transmission ground and the big wire going to my starter shorting out on the casing. I bent the loop connector that bolted to the starter so it would have more clearance from the casing, sanded down the connection for my transmission ground strap, and haven't had a problem with my car since.
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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I agree you are probably hearing a combination of the fuel pump and a relay or two. Just track down the noise and figure out if its just a loud relay or if you have an arc.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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Thanks guys gonna give it a try 2marrow gotta order these parts in the morning. Ground wire and ****.. anyway should be in good shape by the end of 2marrow.


bump if there's any other idears out there.
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