Whats the max potenial of a NA CTR motor....
Why buy a CTR? But truthfully it all depends on your wallet but that isn't the question. Streetable I would say about 230-240 at the wheels. With a hondata or some other engine management like TEC 3 or whatever. Oh yeah why do want to buy a CTR if you don't mind me asking?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kampfer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i dont wanna pintch the wallet for a b18 of anysort.. and b16b seems pretty cheap and has potenial</TD></TR></TABLE>
you mean a b16a, right?... cuz a b18c is cheaper than a b16b
you mean a b16a, right?... cuz a b18c is cheaper than a b16b
b16b has same potential as any other b-series block with all-motor...
it's just cheaper to get a b16a. If your going all-out all-motor, b16 is best block to go with...If your not going all out (read: no deckplate) run a b18 or b20..
it's just cheaper to get a b16a. If your going all-out all-motor, b16 is best block to go with...If your not going all out (read: no deckplate) run a b18 or b20..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J2turbo21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can just switch out the CTR crank for a gsr or type crank and you got yourelf a type r.The block height is same a b18c.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep...its just a destroked B18C5. The best bang for the buck is to buy a GSR motor. I would only get a B16B if I was road racing and my class was displacement limited to 1.6L
Yep...its just a destroked B18C5. The best bang for the buck is to buy a GSR motor. I would only get a B16B if I was road racing and my class was displacement limited to 1.6L
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from what i see, I see b18c1 going for quite a bit more then CTR engine, and I do plan to timetrail but no road races
But then again i wanna say that ive pretty much made up my mind on the CTR engine... seems like a better deal for me at the moment
But then again i wanna say that ive pretty much made up my mind on the CTR engine... seems like a better deal for me at the moment
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Yep...its just a destroked B18C5. The best bang for the buck is to buy a GSR motor. I would only get a B16B if I was road racing and my class was displacement limited to 1.6L</TD></TR></TABLE>
what he said
Yep...its just a destroked B18C5. The best bang for the buck is to buy a GSR motor. I would only get a B16B if I was road racing and my class was displacement limited to 1.6L</TD></TR></TABLE>
what he said
to answer your original question.
im gonna say about 200WHP would be your MAX in a b16b.
look at http://www.importreview.com
they did a b16b that was real nice. perfect graph.
im gonna say about 200WHP would be your MAX in a b16b.
look at http://www.importreview.com
they did a b16b that was real nice. perfect graph.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goforbroke »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Streetable I would say about 230-240 at the wheels.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you make it sound so simple
you make it sound so simple
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MaxBoost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your going all-out all-motor, b16 is best block to go with...If your not going all out (read: no deckplate) run a b18 or b20..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Explain?...B16a is a bad block to go with no-matter what your goals (mild or wild).
Suprdave
Explain?...B16a is a bad block to go with no-matter what your goals (mild or wild).
Suprdave
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Explain?...B16a is a bad block to go with no-matter what your goals (mild or wild).
Suprdave
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Exactly why the hell would you go all out on a b16? Waste of time and money.
Explain?...B16a is a bad block to go with no-matter what your goals (mild or wild).
Suprdave
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Exactly why the hell would you go all out on a b16? Waste of time and money.
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From: rigged and ready., WashingtonD.C./FlagstaffAZ/TempeAZ usa
werd, if you went all out w/ a B18 you'd end up w/ like at least 20 more ft/lbs of tq then if you did the same stuff to the B16, and prob closer to 40 more w/ the B20 so I say whether or not you're going all out, at least get a B18, I would go as far as to say the B16 is a slow motor, my friends w/ mildly modded(bolt ons) CRX ZCs have beaten B16 CRXs w/ almost the same mods
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Exactly why the hell would you go all out on a b16? Waste of time and money.</TD></TR></TABLE>
To do it.....and to get responces from people like that.
Exactly why the hell would you go all out on a b16? Waste of time and money.</TD></TR></TABLE>
To do it.....and to get responces from people like that.
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To do it.....and to get responces from people like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It still would be slow *** for a VTEC B series these days. If you want to **** people off...build a bad *** SOHC or LS.
To do it.....and to get responces from people like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It still would be slow *** for a VTEC B series these days. If you want to **** people off...build a bad *** SOHC or LS.
Yeah I know I made it sound very simple but he didn't ask for an explanation. And like I said its going to cost a whole boat load of dough to attain those numbers while streetable. CTR=B16B, b16a=sir, so which one are you taking about?
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Exactly why the hell would you go all out on a b16? Waste of time and money.</TD></TR></TABLE>
because its a nice sleeper motor. give it a gsr crank and a big bore and u got some nice power
Exactly why the hell would you go all out on a b16? Waste of time and money.</TD></TR></TABLE>
because its a nice sleeper motor. give it a gsr crank and a big bore and u got some nice power
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From: rigged and ready., WashingtonD.C./FlagstaffAZ/TempeAZ usa
why not just buy a B18 in the first place? the whole reason the b16 sucks is because its got no torque, so of course its gonna be better if you displace it to 1.8 like a B18
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dkim48 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't wait until Erick is done with my secret b16b. It wont be streetable but it will be close to 280-290whp.
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See thats just something you keep to yourself.
</TD></TR></TABLE>See thats just something you keep to yourself.
B16B. People like to use B16B camshafts in their all motor engines. People like to use B16B pistons in their engines. People like the gear ratios of a B16 tranny. People like having LSD's. Put a B18C crank in it and you have a 1.8L with awesome power for OEM parts.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where the hell can you get a b16b engine for less than 1700 bux?</TD></TR></TABLE>
japan...
japan...
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