GE Block, cometic gasket = oil seepage?

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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Default GE Block, cometic gasket = oil seepage?

I have a newly built motor (finally) and I have put 1K miles on it and retorqued the headstuds (ARP) to the spec - 82ft/lbs.

Ever since I have had the new motor, there has been a small amount of oil seepage that is seeming to come from the headgasket area on the front passenger side of the block (from the dist forward on the tranny side of the block). Is this seepage 'normal'? It doesn't seem to be alot of oil, since my dipstick doesnt even notice it... but I'd figure that I'd ask....

opinions? expierences? suggestions? Thanks.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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Is your head milled?
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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Ive got the same problem with my gfs sol. GE, 85mm B20 Vtec. I had a similar problem on an old LSVtec, and bars leak fixed it. We are dumping another bottle in tonight, hopefully this cures the problem....
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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no, stock head
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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Tinker... I don't see how bars leak & conditioner which is put into the coolant could do anything with a light oil seepage...?? please explain how adding Bars would affect the problem...
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:10 PM
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Bump.... Any other expierences??
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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my car is having the same prob., and I am on my second headgasket. car runs fine just leaks oil like you said.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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Have you inspected the cam seal.....hondas are prone to leaking. Also maybe check the oring at the vtec solonoid.
Get the stupid things out of the way before you get all worried about the hg.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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Is your block o-ringed? I had problems w/ my block before but it was leaking coolant, I took out the o-rings and put the HP cometic gasket on. I have about 200 miles on it right now but dont see anything leaking outside my block.............yet. **crossing fingers**
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you inspected the cam seal.....hondas are prone to leaking. Also maybe check the oring at the vtec solonoid.
Get the stupid things out of the way before you get all worried about the hg.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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Well, answer a few questions first.

1, What Cometic gasket are you running?
2. Is the block o-rings?
3. did you check the dowel height before you installed the head.
4. Did you apply anything to the headgasket?
5. What lube was used on the headstuds? ( if you stretch gauged them, what was the stretch? )

If you can give an answer to these Q's, I can probably point you in the right direction. Thanks
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you inspected the cam seal.....hondas are prone to leaking. Also maybe check the oring at the vtec solonoid.
Get the stupid things out of the way before you get all worried about the hg.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is good advice, happens all the time. If all things check out and you end up replacing the headgasket then take a straight edge with feeler gaiges to check if the sleeves may have sunk.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you inspected the cam seal.....hondas are prone to leaking. Also maybe check the oring at the vtec solonoid.
Get the stupid things out of the way before you get all worried about the hg.</TD></TR></TABLE>

check those two things and also check o ring on distributor
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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Boostfed, oil leaking OUT of the block won't be a sunk sleeve. Think about it!
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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I have the same problem. Later, I found out it was the vtec solenoid. Tiny bit of oil came out from the vtec solenoid and end up at that particular place. Therefore, I thought it was the head gasket or something wrong the head.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GoldenEagleMfg.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Boostfed, oil leaking OUT of the block won't be a sunk sleeve. Think about it!</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're right plus he has Golden Eagle sleeves and they are unsinkable! Mine shrunk I think. Anyways check the VTEC solenoid, the o ring on the distributor, valve cover gasket etc etc.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 05:31 AM
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After some further testing I have found that if it hit VTEC more often during a drive period there seems to be a slight bit more oil visible. THe problem I am having is that the oil is fresh and pretty clean thus hard to trace. I will pull off the VTEC solenoid and make sure the oring is good and possibly assist it in sealing with a little hondabond...
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GoldenEagleMfg.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
5. What lube was used on the headstuds? ( if you stretch gauged them, what was the stretch? )

If you can give an answer to these Q's, I can probably point you in the right direction. Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
Vince, how do you use a stretch gauge on head studs. Can you post a pix of how that works? I have never seen the tool to do that.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:07 AM
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Vince, how do you use a stretch gauge on head studs. Can you post a pix of how that works? I have never seen the tool to do that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Me neither! Maybe a good Eagle's eye could do it huh?
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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well my block is a stock b20 with a vtec head and I checked everything, at first I had oil coming from the cam seals (by the gear) and put new ones in and it dry over there but on the front of the block oil is coming down it.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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It's your vtec solenoid. It happened to me after my block and head were built. I had a shitload of superfine metal shavings in the screen of the vtec solenoid screen and that was blocking it. I took it off and it looked like silver metallic paint inside. Sprayed it with carb cleaner and then used hondabond around the whole solenoid.....dry as a bone.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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As everyone has posted, look to the vtec selenoid, valve cover or distributor seal. Not a block problem. The area of the leak always is the clue.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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I am gonna scope the VTEC solenoid this weekend... The oil is fresh thus making tracing hard, but I think that is gonna be the culprit.... thanks again for the responses...

I love the torque of my GE Sleeved block...
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