how can u make a g2 GSR hp the same as a G3??
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how can u make a g2 GSR hp the same as a G3??
is there a way to get my 92 GSR from 16o hp to 170 hp (like how u can make a 90-91 rs/ls/gs that is hp go from 130hp to 140hp by changing a few things like intake manifold and stuff) ??
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Re: how can u make a g2 GSR hp the same as a G3?? (MrJasey)
With bolt-ons, you can gain some of that power. However, the reason for the G3 GSR's having 170hp is b/c the engine is completely different. G2 B17's are just a stroked B16, whereas the G3 has the B18C1, which has a larger bore and stroke = more power. Luckily for you, your chassis is lighter than the G3 GSR, so it's a driver's race between the two cars, even tho on paper, the G3 should win.
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Re: how can u make a g2 GSR hp the same as a G3?? (jl74)
Well i think the G2 has a 9:5.1 compression ratio..u could get some higher compression pistons and it should bump u up considerably...but bolt ons might just do the trick and it might be cheaper if u're not the one going to pull down the block.
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Re: how can u make a g2 GSR hp the same as a G3?? (MrJasey)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrJasey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there a way to get my 92 GSR from 16o hp to 170 hp (like how u can make a 90-91 rs/ls/gs that is hp go from 130hp to 140hp by changing a few things like intake manifold and stuff) ??
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Put ITR cams and valvetrain on it and your done.
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Put ITR cams and valvetrain on it and your done.
Isnt the G2 GSR a SOCH?
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Re: how can u make a g2 GSR hp the same as a G3?? (MrJasey)
you want the hp or to be as fast?
g2 gsr's are faster than the g3's b/c of weight.
Hp is one thing but there are many factors to being as fast.
g2 gsr's are faster than the g3's b/c of weight.
Hp is one thing but there are many factors to being as fast.
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Re: how can u make a g2 GSR hp the same as a G3?? (^colyer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ^colyer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you want the hp or to be as fast?
g2 gsr's are faster than the g3's b/c of weight.
Hp is one thing but there are many factors to being as fast.</TD></TR></TABLE>
b/c of weight? do u have evidence of that g2's are faster.
g2 gsr's are faster than the g3's b/c of weight.
Hp is one thing but there are many factors to being as fast.</TD></TR></TABLE>
b/c of weight? do u have evidence of that g2's are faster.
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Re: how can u make a g2 GSR hp the same as a G3?? (vtecivicex)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecivicex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whereas the G3 has the B18C1, which has a larger bore and stroke = more power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Holy wrong information Batman. All Honda B-series (other than a B20) use an 81mm bore. Only the rod lenghts and strokes are different.
An easy way to get more power out of your B17A is to swap in some P30 pistons and an Integra Type-R Intake Cam and perhaps an Integra Type-R/Skunk2 Intake Manifold. All the bolt ons won't hurt either. With these mild upgrades, I imagine you could coax about 15-20 more horsepower out of the B17A...
Holy wrong information Batman. All Honda B-series (other than a B20) use an 81mm bore. Only the rod lenghts and strokes are different.
An easy way to get more power out of your B17A is to swap in some P30 pistons and an Integra Type-R Intake Cam and perhaps an Integra Type-R/Skunk2 Intake Manifold. All the bolt ons won't hurt either. With these mild upgrades, I imagine you could coax about 15-20 more horsepower out of the B17A...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gtravsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">G2
2665 lbs
160 hp
117 ft-lbs
G3
2667 lbs
170 hp
128 ft-lbs
I'm tired of hearing the g2's are faster because of weight...if they are in fact faster, it would be because of gearing.
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true
best stock times ive seen for a g2 gsr is 15.2
best ive seen for g3 gsr is 15.1
oh and i (removed my spare and tools and the farthest rear panel, rear speaker covers, and rear trunk cover thing )and weighed my gsr at 2572 on a little less than a half a tank of gas.
2665 lbs
160 hp
117 ft-lbs
G3
2667 lbs
170 hp
128 ft-lbs
I'm tired of hearing the g2's are faster because of weight...if they are in fact faster, it would be because of gearing.
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best stock times ive seen for a g2 gsr is 15.2
best ive seen for g3 gsr is 15.1
oh and i (removed my spare and tools and the farthest rear panel, rear speaker covers, and rear trunk cover thing )and weighed my gsr at 2572 on a little less than a half a tank of gas.
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2G gsr tegs have great trannys. The b17 needs some compression like someone said. 9.5 to 1 is LOW. With just some ctr pistons & cams these things come alive.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4potnick »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2G gsr tegs have great trannys. The b17 needs some compression like someone said. 9.5 to 1 is LOW. With just some ctr pistons & cams these things come alive. </TD></TR></TABLE>
it might be low but its good for boost. i much rather run boost than going through all the trouble of NA to just gain a little horspower here or there. forced induction
it might be low but its good for boost. i much rather run boost than going through all the trouble of NA to just gain a little horspower here or there. forced induction
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g2 gsr's are not faster because of weight.
they also have a transmission that has shorter gearing than a ITR. But, they lack torque. And for all of you who dont think torque matters much, think again. They basically weigh the same. Not both drivers are going to weigh the same either, and if the G2 is lighter, its only by about 100 lbs, which can come back really quick depending on how heavy/light the drivers are.
they also have a transmission that has shorter gearing than a ITR. But, they lack torque. And for all of you who dont think torque matters much, think again. They basically weigh the same. Not both drivers are going to weigh the same either, and if the G2 is lighter, its only by about 100 lbs, which can come back really quick depending on how heavy/light the drivers are.
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yes I agree, i'm pretty sure they're faster because of the awesome short gearing.. thats the tranny to go after if you plan on doing a b16a1 swap in an earlier year honda.. or the jdm xsi tranny with lsd? lol, i'm getting off topic. G2 GSR's G3 GSR's 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4potnick »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2G gsr tegs have great trannys. The b17 needs some compression like someone said. 9.5 to 1 is LOW. With just some ctr pistons & cams these things come alive. </TD></TR></TABLE>
for the record its 9.7 to 1 the tranny is obviously shorter and the b17 makes 117 lb feet of torque @7000rpm and 160hp@7600rpm....
and its 1667cc.
for the record its 9.7 to 1 the tranny is obviously shorter and the b17 makes 117 lb feet of torque @7000rpm and 160hp@7600rpm....
and its 1667cc.
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Re: how can u make a g2 GSR hp the same as a G3?? (MrJasey)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrJasey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there a way to get my 92 GSR from 16o hp to 170 hp (like how u can make a 90-91 rs/ls/gs that is hp go from 130hp to 140hp by changing a few things like intake manifold and stuff) ??
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There are a million other variables that come into play.
Too numerous to mention, that affect power output.
And one other thing. "A horse power rating" is merely a mathmatical
formula to show "where and how" an engine outputs it "power".
"Horsepower CANNOT BE MEASURED".
Only torque output can be measured.
And with a "torque measurement" plus the formula you can extrapolate
a "horsepower rating".
And everyone is forgetting about the effects of the ECU and software that's a year more improved. This would have as much if not more effect on HP than 10 lbs. of more or less weight.
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There are a million other variables that come into play.
Too numerous to mention, that affect power output.
And one other thing. "A horse power rating" is merely a mathmatical
formula to show "where and how" an engine outputs it "power".
"Horsepower CANNOT BE MEASURED".
Only torque output can be measured.
And with a "torque measurement" plus the formula you can extrapolate
a "horsepower rating".
And everyone is forgetting about the effects of the ECU and software that's a year more improved. This would have as much if not more effect on HP than 10 lbs. of more or less weight.
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Re: (anti-ricecake)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by anti-ricecake »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
oh and i (removed my spare and tools and the farthest rear panel, rear speaker covers, and rear trunk cover thing )and weighed my gsr at 2572 on a little less than a half a tank of gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wieghed in at 2549 lbs i just removed the spare and tools, but i also have koni shocks, ground controls, skunk2 control arms and aem cai, so those parts might be lighter than stock too. I had half a tank of gas.
oh and i (removed my spare and tools and the farthest rear panel, rear speaker covers, and rear trunk cover thing )and weighed my gsr at 2572 on a little less than a half a tank of gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wieghed in at 2549 lbs i just removed the spare and tools, but i also have koni shocks, ground controls, skunk2 control arms and aem cai, so those parts might be lighter than stock too. I had half a tank of gas.
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