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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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i know you cant put ctr/itr pistion on ur ls rods in a ls motor b/c of clearance issues. but if u put on a b16 head with out installin the VTEC, you use use ctr/itr pistion bc that would up ur compresstion ... what would be need to do this? it should be like a ls head only with bigger vallves! is this possblie or am i crazy? my goal is to go all motot LS with no VTEC
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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dumbest idea ive seen all day. whats the point of any of that. and you can have ctr pistons in your LS without problems
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dumbest idea ive seen all day. whats the point of any of that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Removing VTEC? What's so dumb about that? I'm doing that on my B18C5.
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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read the last line of my signature!
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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25% of people say no ctr/itr pistion
25%say only gsr will fit
25% say only b16
25 say % are ****** LOST
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Removing VTEC? What's so dumb about that? I'm doing that on my B18C5.</TD></TR></TABLE>congrats...
ur getting vtec killers?
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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hmmm.. allmotor LS...I would just stick with a Ls head. I use to have a eg with a LS the car ran 13.6@101mph and had a 2.0 60 ft my setup was:

itr pistons
LdL ported head
Crower 403 cams
Gsr tranny
skunk 2 manifold
heavy duty clutch

the car was never tuned and could have ran much faster.

good luck with your setup.
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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integra type R pistons do fit on ls rod,you just have to machine down the small end of the rod,so that it fits into the piston.
Bin there done that!
compression with tyre R head becomes,11.2:1
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Old Jul 7, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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Can someone put his post in english. What exactly does he want to do?
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Old Jul 7, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wm5holla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">25% of people say no ctr/itr pistion
25%say only gsr will fit
25% say only b16
25 say % are ****** LOST</TD></TR></TABLE>

Than 100% of the people you have talked to are completely retarted. Any b series vtec piston will work, all you have to do is remove 1mm of material off each side of the piston end on your ls rods. I'll be doing this when I drop in some pct pistons soon.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dumbest idea ive seen all day. whats the point of any of that. and you can have ctr pistons in your LS without problems</TD></TR></TABLE>

werd
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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whats the point of removing vtec on a b18c5? vtec killers?
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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My Allmotor(NONVTEC) ran 12.4@108 with a blown head gasket. Street Driven 91 CRX SI. So there's a reson for it.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dumbest idea ive seen all day. whats the point of any of that. and you can have ctr pistons in your LS without problems</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the most ignorant thing I have read all day. You are going to be extremely suprised of what may pop up in Pro all motor classes next season.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4piston &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is the most ignorant thing I have read all day. You are going to be extremely suprised of what may pop up in Pro all motor classes next season.</TD></TR></TABLE>
until i am proven wrong i cant believe it has potential.

now you say pro all motor huh. that might include over boring which would not be this combination would it.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 743 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Than 100% of the people you have talked to are completely retarted. Any b series vtec piston will work, all you have to do is remove 1mm of material off each side of the piston end on your ls rods. I'll be doing this when I drop in some pct pistons soon.</TD></TR></TABLE> iknow any b vtec pistion will fit on an LS rod, the issue is vavle clearnce issues? i dont want it to PING!
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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heres the goal: i want to vtec pistions in my all motor LS, i know its possible to do. just like its possible to swallow beach,but its not safe.. i want a higher domed oem piston (vtec pistions)
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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I can assure you 100% that ctr pistons will work in an ls with stock cams, or 403's. I've heard mixed opinions on 404's with pct's, but I plan on finding out for myself. I've been informed that 404 cams with civic type r pistons will net a 12.9:1 CR, but according to online compression calculators, it will be less than 11.5:1. Anyway, if you plan on crazy cams, itr pistons should suffice. I can assure you however, that both ctr and itr will have no valve clearance problems on a stock cam'd/mild cam'd ls.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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ARE you sayin that i cant use stock cams?
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 08:51 AM
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ttt
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